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Not the mountains of North Carolina. That is why the death toll is so bad there was no evacuation order and only some lucky people received warnings at all. Most people where stuck by the time it got bad with roads washing out completely.
I realize it isnt normal for them, but they just watched it come.
Its not like the storm hit them out of nowhere.
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Yes, they have been hit by hurricanes but nowhere near the damage that occurred ever did. If it was so bad and everyone knew it the government would have ordered evacuations but no one thought it would be that bad that far inland. So no one left I mean you in the mountains the government is saying it will be fine why would you leave?
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Dude have you ever been to those parts? They don't exactly have a clear way out the roads wind around and up and over mountains. The area that was devastated was on the west side of the state not a part that gets hurricane-force winds because of how inland it is. It crossed Florida, Georgia, and South Carolina before getting to North Carolina. This was roughly 450 miles inland.
This also wasn't the government being wrong this was scientific models being broken in front of our eyes. Historical events took place something no one could have accounted for. Flooding started in North Carolina roughly an hour after landfall when the Hurricane itself wasn't even close to the state. By the time the outer bands got there, people were already stuck from landslides.
I mean they had a tornado on a freakin mountain. People would have left if they had known but the forecast didn't show this.
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So I guess you just either didn't read or ignored how this storm broke the scientific models. That isn't the government that the meteorologists and all the people with degrees in the water cycle, the atmosphere, etc. Look at the map above and you tell me when we have had storms 450+ miles inland producing hurricane-force winds. The answer is zero.
You are treating these people are complete morons and idiots which just isn't right.
As the sky got dark, they just sat thinking they were safe.
If you were over 400 miles, of land mind you, away from a storm you would do the exact same thing. It's known to be dangerous on the roads while it is pouring down rain. If you are someone who is so concerned about these storms that means you must be evacuating every time a bad storm sweeps across the US so you are leaving every other week or maybe even a couple of times a week to be safe.
The logic isn't there.
By the time it got back people were either A) going to be stuck on those roads which is an extremely bad idea hence the reason they didn't do it (some locations take 2-3 hours to go just a few miles because of all the winding and up and down) or B) ride out whatever is left of the storm by the time it gets to you.
Those mountain roads you avoid with rain and rain started days before the Hurricane made landfall. To help you with this chart below the storm didn't make landfall until 11:10 PM on the 26th. It was the 27th before it got to North Carolina. You could chalk up some of the otter bands MAYBE getting to North Carolina late on the 26th however the flooding was already going on because of the rain on the 25th alone.
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First off, I am not talking about a small storm.
They knew the hurricane was coming, yet they didnt take the right measures.
When you buy a house in the mountain, you know that you only have one road down.
Yet you buy it regardless.
Actions have consequences, nature isnt kind.
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Ignorance must be bliss. You just cherry-pick points. The chart above shows flooding began days before. The hurricane was hitting Flordia and had to go through all of Georiga, part of South Carolina to finally get to North Carolina. Models from scientists both employed by the government but also more importantly NOT employed by the government did not even think about hurricane-force winds 450 miles inland in North Carolina. Even when a Cat 5 comes in and hits the Gulf states hurricane-force winds 450 miles inland are insane even though the land is flat and thus the storm can travel much further inland without issues. Spending my entire life in the Gulf and dealing with hurricanes it is clear that what happened in North Carolina was an anomaly, not the norm.
You keep acting like this area of the country is like the East or West Coast and people can easily move. This is Appalachia mining country, an area that not only tends to be much poorer compared to the rest of the US but also has generation upon generation who have all lived there. These people didn't have a place to go and for the life of me, I cannot understand how you do not see this.
Flooding that has not happened in recorded history isn't the simple "actions have consequences" its like saying oh in Japan they should have known that the tsunami was coming because they have earthquakes and live by water. These people lived in the mountains and knew terrible storms could come but nothing like the ones that hit both Japan and North Carolina.
Empathy shouldn't be this hard to comprehend.