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51 sats \ 7 replies \ @kepford 12 Nov \ on: Requiem for a Broken Progressive Dream (Joakim Book, The Daily Economy, AIER) econ

For classical liberals, it’s important to remember that this election result doesn’t constitute any kind of “win.”

Its hard for me to agree with this. Its not the end of the war. But I don't see how it isn't any kind of win. As you point out, nothing has yet changed but we did see the defeat of Harris and this is an even bigger defeat for the corporate press. I call that a victory. Hopefully one of many to come.

We still have a Leviathan government larger than anything the founders could have conceived of even in their wildest nightmares. The debt and deficit are both out of control (if anything about to get much worse under Trump, bar an Elon cost-cutting miracle); Social Security is still a mess, defunct in a few short years. Military adventurism is despicable, the southern border a farce, health an institutionalized disaster, the central bank unfit for purpose.

Yes. These are things that I am not very optimistic about Trump actually fixing. I'd love to be wrong though and the fact that Ron Paul's name is even being mentioned. Same for Thomas Massey and a few others like Joel Salatin is positive and I consider that a win. The fact that this election has elicited immediate changes in stances of powers in two conflicts is good.

Any time we see neocons lose that's a win. I want to see a world with less war. I don't co-sign the Republican party or Trump but I want to see less war mongers in Washington with real power.

Of course these are my opinions. Not yours.

49 sats \ 6 replies \ @SimpleStacker 12 Nov

I also see it as a win, if only because I think the corporate press and the democratic party needs repudiation. If they didn't get the rebuke they deserved, it would validate their tactics and they'd continue down their destructive path.

Trump may or may not end up being good for classical liberal causes, but the path the Democratic Party and their media allies were heading down needed a course correction.

31 sats \ 4 replies \ @denlillaapan OP 12 Nov

Thanks for sharing, friend.

Yeahz, I don't have much to quibble with here. This was written for a very different audience than the based peeps here on SN

we will see what he does. I am indeed relieved that it wasn't the other -- verifiably worst schmucks -- but still, politicians are politicians

10 sats \ 3 replies \ @kepford 12 Nov

Yeah, that makes sense. I've written things for different audiences and posted it here and it is wild the difference in responses.

110 sats \ 0 replies \ @kepford 12 Nov

And I mean this is a good way. One of the many reasons I rarely talk politics or economics with people in my life is that they don't have interesting thoughts on the topics. At best they repeat what they have been fed from media. They haven't read or thought deeply about these things. If I'm gonna disagree with people I'd rather learn something from the discussion than feel like I'm talking to a NPC.

And I say that with love. Some days I wish I didn't think about these topics and cared less. Found them less interesting. Life would be simpler.

0 sats \ 1 reply \ @SimpleStacker 12 Nov

I'm curious what kind of wild different responses you got and where you posted them.

I imagine most of what we talk about here on SN would get shouted down on Reddit

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @kepford 12 Nov

Wasn't political/economic. Was technical and I get privacy maximalist stuff here. That's the example I can recall.

10 sats \ 0 replies \ @kepford 12 Nov

Indeed, they need repudiation. Honestly, their tactics seem to me less effective over time. We are fully in a crisis of authority era and its their fault. Its a good thing but I don't think they are learning the right lessons. That's also good. Let them further destroy their credibility.