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Ok, so as life gets harder, governments remain incompetent and fiat keeps losing its value, bitcoin will continue to win and get stronger, I have zero doubt.
that being said, I can totally see a scenario where people, even though they were willfully ignorant and even though they were warned, will focus their hate and frustration on future bitcoiners. Maybe our grandchildren will be on the end of this hate.
People will say it was all luck, it's not fair, and would probably love it for the state to try and do a little 'reallocating'.
Most no-coiners already kind of hate us because they just see MSM and think we're the same as crypto bros (maybe some are, but not all), they have a buttcoin mentality and won't cope well as bitcoin keeps gaining more and more adoption across the globe.
How do you think things will pan out?
The rich are always hated. Tbh I don't see bitcoiners hated as much because all we did is talk about it
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69 sats \ 1 reply \ @Imyourfed 6h
Bircoiners will face hatred especially from those who feel left behind. People often blame others when they’re frustrated lol
I really have no idea how will this even pan out? Because huge majority will always feel it's too late and this will eventually end up hating Bitcoiners.
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even bitcoiners hate other bitcoiners lol, not just the bcash and VOS people lol
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TRULY.
Jeez, fucks
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For a while I was of the opinion that we would be hated and targeted.
Nowadays I'm thinking we might end up shaping culture.
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true, although, unless blackrock takes over and does a fork and they use their muscle to shape it. fuck that would be terrible
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46 sats \ 1 reply \ @knorozov 5h
Just like the group 'internet users', everybody is going to own bitcoin. People move on, new generations will come and adjust to the new reality. Don't worry. Just don't flash, brag or be arrogant, but that's always been true.
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this is a good point, i hope the younger generation will just be natively born into it and find it amusing how previous generation like Schiff were hating on it for so long
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IMHO it depends. If it will end up just as store of value, Bitcoiners won’t be so much different than “Golders”.
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I don't know about that.
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22 sats \ 2 replies \ @Jon_Hodl 2h
I think within a generation, everybody will be well accustomed to bitcoin and be so familiar with it that it wont be hated at all like the cantillonaire class of today.
In order to get bitcoin, you have to do work. In order to get fiat, you just have to be closer to the money printer than others.
In the future, bitcoin will require bitcoiners to continue to produce work or spend their sats on food water, shelter, transportation, etc. Bitcoiners won't be hated. We/They will be the normal working class.
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i suppose people will decide if you are the cantillation class based on the fiat price per coin price when a person got in.
like to me, the 2k crowd were 'early' even though i could have been there, then one day, people will say the people that came onboard at 100k were the lucky class etc
might see some grandkids inheriting crazy sats
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Yeah, this is where I see privacy taking the front seat. I don't want anyone to know that my posterity has any meaningful amount of sats.
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10 sats \ 1 reply \ @flat24 3h
It is a fact that those on the left are the most likely to fall into this parasitic vision. "It's not fair, take from him and give back to the poorest"
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they 1000% will
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32 sats \ 15 replies \ @Fabs 5h
I'm absolutely with ya, but on the other hand: Single women will love us! 🥲❤️‍🔥
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110 sats \ 5 replies \ @Fabs 3h
I'm actually thinking about going to Thailand next year, but not for the reasons one might think; We have an apartment there, my dad practically lives there half of the year and the rest takes turns to go there, so I'll join them for once, been years since I left town. 🙂
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as long as you stay away from soi 6 in pattaya, you'll be fine lol
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10 sats \ 3 replies \ @Fabs 2h
What do you think where the apartment is? Pattaya.
I've already heard some things about that street as well, haha! 🤣
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i thought i better specify in case there was another scandalous soi 6 somewhere else in Thailand lol
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Fabs 1h
Scandalous? Man get treated like kings there! /$..
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Fabs 1h
At least I think, Ive often heard Pattaya come up in convo's, which is why I think it's there...
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21 sats \ 7 replies \ @ek 5h
us or our bitcoins?
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0 sats \ 6 replies \ @Fabs 5h
Our Character! /$...
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105 sats \ 5 replies \ @ek 4h
Or maybe your pouches 👀
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33 sats \ 4 replies \ @Fabs 3h
Oeh! @ek'kie dekkie doe, what would I do without you?!
They're a pain in the ass, but starting to get shape.
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346 sats \ 1 reply \ @anon 3h
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1 sat \ 0 replies \ @Fabs 3h
🤣🤣🤣 That made me laugh-out-loud, saved!
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0 sats \ 1 reply \ @ek 2h
what would I do without you?!
chop wood, carry water
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Fabs 2h
Nah.
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I must admit that I have seen many bitcoiners (in the internet, not in real life) that support bitcoin with the same arguments that shitcoiners support their own shitcoin. Yeah, these people are on the right side, but not due to them gaining knowledge. So for them calling them lucky won't be far from the truth.
Anyway, luck or not, hate from other people will be due to plain old envy, nothing more.
I would advise people to stack bitcoin for themselves, not to gain other people's admiration. I would go as far as to advise the opposite - to hide that you have bitcoin. This plain old envy that i mentioned can sometimes be dangerous to the successful person.
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envy + desperation are lethal , i don't talk about bitcoin for example irl
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That is good. But many people crave the validation from others (see, I was right) or want to "win" the superiority contest (by showing others that they are more successful. In the later case they even gain satisfaction from others envying them.
But it is best if one doesn't give in to these desires (if one has such desires in the first place).
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yes, unfortunately, many people have the desire to flex. luckily i couldn't care less :)
in the 90s my wife's mum ran a stall at a market in Russia and the successful merchants that bought fancy coats were the first to get extorted and some even killed. they have a good saying - 'money likes silence'
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Not likely.
ATM bitcoin's market cap is 2T. Even 100x from here won't bring it to the levels of the stock market.
There's been very little (or at least manageable) hate towards the stock owning class in the past.
Just imagine stock market doubles. The wealth effect is much much greater in absolute terms. Still past doublings have not caused hate towards the stock owners.
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this is true , i've never seen a stock hater, but that's probably because stocks cover all sorts of companies and most people in the US at least have exposure via a 401k
bitcoin is just the one thing and tends to illicit very negative reactions, like Buffet calling it rat poison etc
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Sure. Still the relative effect will not be even as large as pumps in the stock market in the past - even in case of 100x . 100x is going to take some time and people will adapt. Most people (in developed world) will own bitcoin at that stage.
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10 sats \ 1 reply \ @jgbtc 4h
Two things give me hope:
  1. Bitcoin slowly starves the beast. So while bitcoiners are getting wealthy, the institutions that work to propagandize and turn people against us are constantly getting weaker.
  2. It's fairly easy to keep a low profile as a bitcoiner. Definitely do not be public about it. All the public bitcoiner personalities should definitely be worried.
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i think they probably have plenty of money to have a good security system set up etc , maybe not so much the lower level influencers.
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11 sats \ 0 replies \ @TNStacker 5h
Jealousy and envy are unavoidable human conditions.
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We will definitely face hatred and envy because of their frustration.
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @guts 2h
Blackrock will put its propaganda machinery to work for normies accept Bitcoin and other Blackrock tokens bag. It will work because most people are really easy to influence by the elite.
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The set of bitcoiners will be equal to the set of humans. Those who got in earlier will be envied by those who got in later.
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Jeez hell no
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