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110 sats \ 7 replies \ @OT 30 Nov \ on: Store your wealth in clay history

Nice post!

I've been thinking about doing a post on putting a seed phrase in clay. Just because it lasts so long. I also like that if you bury it, a metal detector has no chance of finding it.

The reason I haven't made one so far is that clay needs to be hardened in a super hot oven. I don't have one and using a local pottery would reveal the seed.

98 sats \ 4 replies \ @zapsammy 30 Nov

make a large clay plate, like 1ft x 1ft, indent holes in clay to make a QR code, turn upside down, cover with another ceramic plate from a home building store, and make it part of a sidewalk or bury the thing. a pottery store is unlikely to know what the QR code scans with, and if still paranoid, add a passphrase.

when the sidewalks are replaced, they are typically smashed into pieces, so no one will get to see the QR code. obviously store another copy somewhere else.

0 sats \ 3 replies \ @OT 30 Nov

I thought about something like that. Maybe put the words on the inside of a clay vase or jug.

I'm not sure how the way you described would hold up in a kiln.

37 sats \ 2 replies \ @zapsammy 30 Nov

some of the best ways to hide stuff is typically in plain sight, and if the thing is extremely valuable, add a decoy nearby like a coin or a ring, or something pretty. people are fallible to a satisfaction of search.

0 sats \ 1 reply \ @OT 30 Nov

Maybe...

Of course there are many ways to store a seed. Steel or hardened clay would be better for long periods of time (decades). As long as you remember or have written down for your heirs how to find it again!

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @zapsammy 30 Nov

from Feyman's lecture:

"If, in some cataclysm, all of scientific knowledge were to be destroyed, and only one sentence passed on to the next generations of creatures, what statement would contain the most information in the fewest words? I believe it is the atomic hypothesis (or the atomic fact, or whatever you wish to call it) that all things are made of atoms—little particles that move around in perpetual motion, attracting each other when they are a little distance apart, but repelling upon being squeezed into one another. In that one sentence, you will see, there is an enormous amount of information about the world, if just a little imagination and thinking are applied."

https://www.feynmanlectures.caltech.edu/I_01.html

the other vital piece of information to pass down is that there is a finite number of satoshis - 2.1q.

if all bitcoin i know about is lost, all i need is to know about bitcoin, stack again for a few years, find some bitcoiners in a citadel far-far away, and become happy.

i wish this saying becomes popular: "don't cry over a lost seed phrase"

58 sats \ 0 replies \ @plunda OP 30 Nov

that's a great addition to this post. would be a very cool way to store a seed phrase. thanks for sharing!

48 sats \ 0 replies \ @Signal312 30 Nov

Wow, a seed phrase in clay...very interesting idea.

Just for kicks I did a little research on how to fire clay without a kiln. Apparently there's a couple methods. Also the YouTube channel Primitive Technology has lots of episodes on firing clay with primitive methods.

Anyway, here's what seems like the most researched:

https://www.instructables.com/Firing-Natural-Clay-WITHOUT-a-KILN/

Also in the COMMENT from that post, someone mentioned firing small clay pieces in a microwave. Hmm...