271 sats \ 14 replies \ @k00b 9 Oct 2022 \ on: Do you want to see SN become like Reddit? meta
We definitely want different communities to be able to use bitcoin and SN eventually. The only thing up for debate imo is how exactly to do it because maybe there’s something better than the sub model.
Subs will only promote circlejerks, bubbles and polarization.
Maybe we can have a fixed set of tags (e.g"bitcoin", "LN", " tech", "economy", "science", " philosophy "), posts can be tagged and users could filter their homepage with multiple tags.
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Subs may be created only after depositing a "stake". It will make harder for bad actors to create many subs and simultaneously create incentive for SB for a proper moderation.
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love the tags idea!
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While you could say a bunch of negative things about sub-communities, they seem to form stronger/tighter communities than tags. I don't know of a community platform that has scaled to large size with tags alone.
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the most negative thing about reddit is that almost all subs are controlled by a small clique....it didn't start out that way but it certainly wound up that way.
The problem isn't solvable by just saying "we bitcoiners are better and more thoughtful, won't happen here" because it will happen. There are 2 main reasons why mod control centralizes: (a) Financial (obvious) and (b) Mental Illness (not obvious).....a normal person doesn't have 22 hours per day to micromanage sub content, however the mentally ill do...hence they out-compete the sane for the job[0].
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We don’t plan to have mods. Each user will moderate their own view of the sub community using web of trust.
In a reddit sub, there is one feed shared by everyone, a commons. Using web of trust a sub on SN will have a feed tailored to the user, more like a twitter; this functions and scales like private property.
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bcashers love to bring up that r/bitcoin mods were censoring them out for promoting a competing contentious fork.
They are wrong about so many things but they were right about this. They were indeed censored.
I wonder what could have happened if there was no central moderation at the time. Maybe bitcoin would have bigger blocks, maybe there would be 5 equally sized forks or maybe bitcoin would be dead.
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Twitter
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AFAICT while tags are a feature of twitter, twitter's communities don't form around tags. They're a discovery mechanism for communities, like retweets, but it's really the follow "graph" connectedness that defines communities.
Day 1 on twitter as a user, it's very hard to find communities. Day 1 on a site like reddit, I can discover all their best bitcoin content.
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I still don't know the main vision you have for SN.
When I found out about SN I took it as a bitcoin focused HN powered by lightning.
Reddit is a general purpose discussion platform. Do you intend for SN to be general purpose? Or should it stay focused on HN type things like tech and science?
If general purpose, I prefer reddit style to twitter.
If non-general purpose, HN with tags would work since the topics are already constrained and there is just 1 single (diverse community).
Of course the latter does not scale to 8 billion people. The question is, how much scaling up do you desire?
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I want the benefit of bitcoin and bitcoin infused communities to scale up as high as it can go.
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Can a "communities" like r/buttcoin, r/btc, r/cc or r/ethereum exist here? (Hypothetically ofc)
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Yes, eventually and hypothetically. But communities here will likely have a cost to start and run, paid in bitcoin.
Thanks for the reply, looking forward!
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