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0 sats \ 3 replies \ @south_korea_ln OP 13 Dec 2024 \ parent \ on: What Spain can teach the rest of Europe econ
Communism is likely the one that advocates most strongly for seizing the means of production. Not many countries have a communist system in place as advocated by Marx. Even countries like China that are officially communist follow many capitalist principles in terms of their economy.
Spain, from my perspective, is a capitalist democracy with socialist policies. Private property and markets, together with state-controlled services such as healthcare, education, welfare, etc. It's for sure not advocating for fully seizing the means of production.
So it's a difference of degree, not a difference of kind?
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Well, for me things are not black and white. So if you see things as either communist or non-communist (or equivalently, free-market or non-free-market), i.e. as binary, then, yes, it is a difference of degree.
But for me, there are more than just two such choices. There are dark side effects in choosing pure communism or in choosing pure free-market. My ideal world combines the good of both and avoids the bad of both. That is a difficult exercise.
A capitalist democracy with some socialist policies is one attempt at solving this exercise. It is far from a perfect solution. Similar to how pure communism or pure capitalism aren't perfect solutions either.
And I agree that pure communism will never ever be a good solution. It just doesn't fit with human nature. Plenty of examples on how all communist systems failed.
I respect your beliefs though. My beliefs are not purely rational, they are rooted in how I was brought up. I experienced the good of capitalism and I experienced the good of certain socialist policies.
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This. The end game is the same for me.
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