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4312 sats \ 31 comments \ @cascdr 2 Jan privacy

👋 What's up, stackers! 🤠

Excited to announce our latest project: Pull That Up Jamie. Think Perplexity but private & open source.

TLDR: ✨ Why Choose Jamie?

🛠️ Fully Open Source and Transparent! ⚡ BOLT11 Bitcoin/Lightning for Anonymous Usage! 🚄 Optimized for Speed and Convenience! 🆓 Limited Free Usage Available!

💦🔒🕵️ Your Biggest Opsec Leak - Why We Tackled Search

Search + LLMs seems like the peanut butter & jelly of the internet - a great match. But at what cost? Now that LLMs and AI are here, we know that finding needles in a vast haystack of data is much easier. That means that seemingly innocuous queries and interactions you have on the internet now carry way more weight than you think. How long before we all get owned? Privacy becomes all the more important. Each query empowers those who would exploit us. Every search chips away, revealing personal details about your state of mind. Stealing your soul little by little.

Just as bitcoin gives us the opportunity to opt out of exploitative economic systems, we wanted to take bitcoin's magic freedom dust and give you the ability to opt out of exploitative search surveillance 🔒🕵️.

⚡ How Bitcoin Lightning Yet Again Fixes This

Using the Bitcoin Connect plugin, we are able to accept BOLT11 payments. BOLT11, thanks to the lightning network's onion routing topology, affords users great sender privacy:

With just a VPN + an NWC connection, you can use Pull That Up Jamie with privacy assurances that are unparalleled. For very low cost, an average person can get Jason Bourne tier opsec.

🚧🧰🏗️Building Off the Great Work of Others

Major shout out to the ⚡ lightning devs that brought BOLT11 to the point it's at and especially to the 🐝 @getalby team for the great work on Bitcoin Connect. BC makes it easy to accept bitcoin payments with very little friction or overhead.

Additionally, we took notes on great projects like Perplexica. However we found that none of them were really geared toward the combination of speed, UX, and convenience we were looking for. Most of them are designed to be run in docker containers on your machine - great for techies but not accessible to the wider population.

We rolled our own from scratch, learning a lot from these projects. We especially took note of the superb qualities afforded by the SearXNG project🔍 🌐. What is SearXNG? Let's ask Pull That Up Jamie:

SearXNG is such a gamechanger that we plan to make a bitcoin payable, AI scannable endpoint just for accessing our instance. DM us if interested.

Armed with the ability to search the web and feed context to LLMs, we can Make The Internet Private Again. We can eliminate Google from your life.

⚡ Stackers do yourselves a favor - check out https://pullthatupjamie.ai today! 🤠

Future Work

Open source models like 🦙 Llama
Collaborating with @TonyGiorgio and team to use their secure compute LLM 🍁 Maple - #764869 as part of the workflow
Expert Mode: interrogate high signal sources of your choosing like podcasts, stacker news posts and others
A couple more secret twists to keep you guessing :)
Suggestions? Hit us with em.

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10 sats \ 0 replies \ @Miranda 2 Jan

I have taken a look at the website, I think it's great the privacy issue and the no data mining through the search we do, the BTC LN and BOLT issue on the Web seems great to me without a doubt the LN network itself offers security and trust. Thanks for sharing. sats to all

1 sat \ 3 replies \ @Jon_Hodl 2 Jan

Who are the human beings behind this?

I had high hopes for Venice.AI but then I learned that Erik Voorhees was involved so I stopped using it.

31 sats \ 2 replies \ @cascdr OP 2 Jan

It's me Jim Carucci. Im an Austin based dev and Pleblab member. Here's a pod of me talking about our cypherpunk ethos: https://youtu.be/4NoC3lR_OFw?si=_XcY7asa8wIjFlSm

0 sats \ 1 reply \ @Jon_Hodl 2 Jan

Nice. Glad to hear you're affiliated with PlebLab.

I will start using your tool and see how things go.

One instant green flag was when I saw that you're using Stacker News, Nostr, and Podcasts to train your AI.

If you build this based around open protocols and low time-preference, then you will absolutely succeed.

I'm looking forward to what you're building.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @cascdr OP 2 Jan

thanks!

0 sats \ 1 reply \ @anon 2 Jan

This shouldn't have user accounts or identities. If it has, then it can create a profile of the user and from there it is only one step to link that to the real world identity of the user.

That is, the system shouldn't be able to tell if two queries come from the same user or from two different users.

Also, the VPN helps protect the real world identity (IP address, geo location), but it can be used to tie different queries to the same user, especially if he is the only user exiting from that VPN.

Having an .onion site would be better.

The way I see it duckduckgo used via Tor has superior privacy and is free.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @cascdr OP 2 Jan

This shouldn't have user accounts or identities

If you pay with bitcoin connect, then it does not. We have other options for those that wanna do it through fiat but my preference is the former. That said our code is open source and audit friendly or self hostable.

Having an .onion site would be better.

TOR is slow and unreliable. One of the key design requirements for us is to pull shit up fast, like Young Jamie.

the system shouldn't be able to tell if two queries come from the same user or from two different users.

If your VPN has a big enough anonymity set this point is kind of moot. I get where you're coming from but the goal is to make it fast and simple so that even your boomer mom could use something like this. I recognize that there are trade offs and this first pass is imperfect. Thanks for the feedback.

0 sats \ 1 reply \ @Solomonsatoshi 2 Jan

But duckduckgo is free.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Jon_Hodl 2 Jan

😂

0 sats \ 1 reply \ @1GLENCoop 2 Jan

Sounds good. Tried it. It thinks the price of bitcoin is around $28K when actually it's more like $97K.

I'm not saying it's bad. I'm just pointing out what I saw.

1 sat \ 0 replies \ @cascdr OP 2 Jan

Ya were working on a better way for recency windowing

You could work around it by adding Jan 2025 or something like that but agreed we should improve that.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @BITC0IN 2 Jan

cool

0 sats \ 3 replies \ @af1f6f3e17 2 Jan

better than searxng on my server?

0 sats \ 2 replies \ @cascdr OP 2 Jan

if you can run it, do it.

Most people can't or won't. That's who Pull That Up Jamie is for :).

0 sats \ 1 reply \ @af1f6f3e17 2 Jan

I see, thanks for the info. I am self-hosting a lot of stuff, but there's always the chance to be outpaced for some inovation, like mastodon vs nostr. Have a good 2025.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @cascdr OP 2 Jan

You could pull our source code and point it at your own SearXNG and run it all locally.

We wanted to make a convenient option where a normie could set up nwc and a vpn and have anonymity.

0 sats \ 2 replies \ @Msd0457890 2 Jan

Excellent initiative, I have been in this privacy thing for a short time, does it also work for all types of systems on Android and computers?

0 sats \ 1 reply \ @cascdr OP 2 Jan

It runs well in your mobile browser yes.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Msd0457890 2 Jan

I've already looked for it.

0 sats \ 1 reply \ @chaoticalHeavy 2 Jan

This is pretty cool

Query: how much does one search cost in Satoshis?

Here is a summary on how much one search costs in Satoshis:

Overview: A Satoshi (SATS) is the smallest unit of the Bitcoin cryptocurrency, representing 0.00000001 BTC or one hundred-millionth of a Bitcoin. The cost of one search operation varies based on factors like transaction fees and Bitcoin's market price.

Key Points:

The absolute minimum transaction fee is 1 Satoshi, but this is impractical as it would take years to confirm [5]. A more reasonable transaction fee is around 1-2 Satoshis per byte of data [9]. For a typical search query of 200-300 bytes, the transaction fee would be 200-600 Satoshis [7]. As of June 2023, 1 Satoshi is worth approximately $0.000028 USD [4]. In Summary: A reasonable estimate for the cost of a basic search operation on the Bitcoin network is around 200-600 Satoshis or $0.006-0.017 USD based on current rates. The exact fee depends on data size and can fluctuate with Bitcoin's price.

85 sats \ 0 replies \ @cascdr OP 2 Jan

Ya it's just using general web search so you'd have to interrogate more specifically pullthatupjamie.ai

So you reminded me I should update that in the docs.

To answer your question: it costs 10 sats/search once you run out of your 5 free searches/week.

0 sats \ 1 reply \ @Skipper 2 Jan

Very interesting. Will bookmark and keep an eye on it.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @cascdr OP 2 Jan

thank you based Skipper 🫡🐧

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @NostrDevTeam 2 Jan

nice!

0 sats \ 6 replies \ @random_ 2 Jan

What model are you using?

0 sats \ 5 replies \ @cascdr OP 2 Jan

For now it is Claude by default and ChatGPT3.5 (click settings gear). As mentioned in future work we plan to expand from here. Love what the former mutiny guys are doing.

0 sats \ 4 replies \ @random_ 2 Jan

Fully Open Source and Transparent!

Then you should amend this.

0 sats \ 3 replies \ @cascdr OP 2 Jan

Then you should amend this

You should make a PR to the readme big guy.

Better yet: you should run an ollama server then make a PR that calls that instead :)

0 sats \ 2 replies \ @random_ 2 Jan

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0 sats \ 1 reply \ @cascdr OP 2 Jan

Lie is an awfully strong word Mr. Keyboard warrior.

Happy New Year. I hope you get over your affliction of being filled with hate and misery this year.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @random_ 2 Jan

Mr. rent seeking, gpt reskinning, fraud