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70 sats \ 5 replies \ @stack_harder 5 Jan \ on: Why have kids? ideasfromtheedge
it's hardwired in our dna for one and I think for most people, they want to have kids to have some kind of a legacy, it's just a fundamental feature of living beings.
the conversations on kids being expensive and cost-benefit analysis are a product of fiat world. Sadly people's ability to store their economic value and comfortably find a place to live and raise a family has been so thoughtfully destroyed everywhere that it has fundamentally changed the way they think.
well, this applies to people that are thinkers, because paradoxically, poor people or people who can't afford kids, are the ones pumping them out. you could argue it's a perverse incentive of welfare states, but you see the same dynamic in poor countries with zero social net, so yeah.
i also think that people question having kids more now because we are a far more selfish and self-obsessed world, probably due to social media and the fact that it's everywhere. also, we have more opportunities like if you are a 20-something single guy with even a slither of rizz, you can quite easily hook up with a lot of women, it's easy to be hedonistic. we can travel, party every weekend, do whatever, cheap flights etc.
a guy who wanted to just chill and fuck women and party 100 years ago had to be super rich or be a literal rock star. he wasn't hopping on a quick flight for a sex holiday in Cancun. that sex holiday would have involved a sea cruise, a ton of stress, and multiple layers of BS upon arrival. and then you might die of some shitty disease or be drafted to a war.
so i think this appearance of options, especially for men, changes the way they think about starting a family and if they want to
You have said something very true, the world has become selfish and empty and the commitment of relationships or love has been left in quotation marks. It is no longer known if love exists or if there really is commitment when taking the step of having sexual relations or being a parent.
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I largely agree with ya, yet I think it's also rooted in the fact that we don't belong to any real-world groups,- clans,- or villages anymore which demand certain things of us and give us certain guide rails to navigate with.
We're an unknown wheel in a world full of superficial acquaintances and strangers, and thus, idiots with even a slither of rizz might choose to easily hook up with a lot of women, instead of starting a traditional family- and they're too often applauded for that behavior as well (IMO).
Traditions and festivities ment to bring said close-knit communities together, have largely degraded into yet another commercial Sales-Event, where people either go to, spend and leave or have yet another load of unnecessary crap delivered to their doorsteps.
We're living in a free-for-all world, with the only real close-knit communities being our family- with even the latter being something not everyone can claim.
I think i'd have flourished in the time after 1950 - before the first computers were a thing, as those days where indeed better from a social- and societal standpoint. (Imo)
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this is also true, probably why so many people are chronically depressed, despite being surrounded by people all the time.
the point about the family is true, you used to have families band together, grandma was there to help with kids and now, that;s IMO in large part to fiat, most people are having to work into their 70, kids have to move far, far away for a job or in the UK often, they want money to babysit or something.
not all of course, but what a fucking shitshow!
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I agree with everything you said. Interestingly I work in a low-progress school n some of my students have 7/8 siblings, I kid you not. This, in expensive modern Singapore. I think that perhaps these parents weren’t pursuing higher education n hence, had the time and headspace to reproduce
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They've been stacking babies lol
how's the benefit system there?
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