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34 sats \ 6 replies \ @Undisciplined OP 14 Jan \ parent \ on: Daily Health Principles: Hormesis HealthAndFitness
You mean no food, but still hydrating? I'm not sure. Getting into autophagy is something I've mostly seen discussed with dry fasting. Maybe longer regular fasts will still get you there. I find longer fasts really inconvenient and I'm not sure I need the benefits that come with it, so I don't do them anymore.
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Yeah, I don't think of it as a "vs", though. Can't both processes occur simultaneously?
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Gotcha, yeah, I'm not sure how they're connected exactly, but I have a sense of some of the differences.
You can be in ketosis indefinitely, by keeping your carb intake low enough. Your body will then primarily be burning fat for energy. My sense is that ketosis is primarily about switching from carb burning mode to fat burning mode.
Autophagy is a more desperate state for your body. It doesn't just look for fat to burn, but anything it can find. That includes a lot of debris that builds up in our bodies, like dead cells and virus fragments. As long as you have that extra stuff to burn, autophagy can be maintained, but eventually your body will start consuming muscles and organs.
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Autophagy definitely happens with water fasting.
But I have been reading that it happens more quickly/substantially with dry fasting.
Dry fasting, at this point, is wildly beyond the pale for anyone who still believes mainstream media. The ONLY thing the mainstream media will say is that dry fasting is insanely dangerous, and don't go near it.
@Undisciplined, I'd love to hear more about how you do dry fasting. Specifics, and also how it helps you. And what you consider the best resources on it.
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Honestly, I have no idea if it's helping me. I've always been pretty healthy, so there weren't any acute problems to clear up.
I just layer it on top of my daily intermittent fast, as well as not drinking water during the day. I still have coffee in the morning, which breaks the dry fast. Most days, I'm probably going about 14 hours without water and 16 without food.
A colleague of mine told me about it and I thought he was nuts. Then, a while later I saw a video about it from Eric Berg (I think) that went into the science and research. I found that convincing enough to give it a shot and it just became part of my habits.
My colleague mentioned that a NASA scientist has written a lot about this, so that might be something to look into.
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