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68 sats \ 7 replies \ @SimpleStacker 11h \ on: Has v4v failed ? bitcoin
No, I don't think it's failed.
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Plenty of V4V platforms like Substack and Pateron exist and are doing just fine.
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Plenty of charitable orgs exist and are doing just fine as well, and they're similar to v4v.
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Just because many podcasts and youtube channels can't function without ads doesn't mean v4v failed. Plenty of podcasts and channels can't function even with ads.
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I agree that "value harder" isn't really a good answer, because probably the solution to "valuing harder" is actually just moving to a more popular platform / moving on to more popular topics. Thus, people who want to promote Nostr/Bitcoin/etc should be more introspective about their platforms than simply telling creators to "value harder."
Sometimes I see posts on SN that are just links and the same user posting lots of them and often making more than the post costed.
I also see a lot of posts that IMO don't bring anything new or different and they are doing amazing if you measure it in terms of zaps received. Like people assmilking Bitcoin related content because they know it's the most popular topic.
If your content is great I believe it increases the chances of receiving a fair amount of sats, if you are known and respected it multiplies that, and there are probably other factors affecting it too.
I believe SN is not MAINLY about earning sats, it's about the community, but if you are always paying and watching easy content being better rewarded than hard to write content, it sends the wrong message.
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i mean, nostr is the prime example of shallow content getting all the zaps, i feel like with SN it's not nearly so bad.
i don't pay any attention to the assmilking links tho.
i think the bitcoin territory is a milker magnet because it's where most activity is, i mean, who is going to post on the spirituality tettiory, it's a deadzone
i should clarify, I'm not a nostr hater, known people getting all the zaps is just a function of there not being an algo, and getting seen without said algo is fucking hard work
by comparison, a new pleb here can make a post and be seen and generate engagement off the bat
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known people getting all the zaps is just a function of there not being an algo
some clients have a working algo, take primal as an example you have the ability to choose your feed
other clients like nostrudel also has a similar concept but not fully implemented, i'm not sure if this is a NIP or just clients trying to solve the problem you described, at least some clients are a bit ahead
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fair points, although it seems making a pure income of substack and patreon alone is pretty tough though, no?
i also don't know if we can compare it with charity because a creator cannot just work forever without an income, whereas charity is a whole other beast, and take most of the money themselves.
maybe v4v concept works best as an addition
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I suppose what I meant by charity was that if you're doing some kind of public service like bitcoin education, then you can see your v4v model as more akin to charity. That would mean explicitly trying to raise funds for your work from people who support your cause.
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that's true, like being a bitcoin missionary of sorts
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