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Robostats: publishing statistics around robosats

5382 sats \ 14 comments \ @optimism 16 Feb bitdevs

I was looking at some of the discussion happening in #883606 and after talking with @siggy47 decided to make a little statistics gathering app; to gain more insight into what's going on on robosats - for everyone.

You can find the live site at: http://tp4defxzepvm6igehdme27ewpakdqzrwj5qer2r7emxsydoruu7nxuyd.onion/

and the source at: http://gg6zxtreajiijztyy5g6bt5o6l3qu32nrg7eulyemlhxwwl6enk6ghad.onion/optimism/robostats

The todo is too big to list, but in the meantime feel free to use/clone/rip apart/pull req/comment/request features.

For those that don't want to start up their tor browser right now, this is what it looks like as of writing:

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130 sats \ 0 replies \ @TheMorningStar 16 Feb

Thanks for sharing this. Never seen any Stats for Robosats before.

172 sats \ 4 replies \ @Scroogey 16 Feb

Could you aggregate this over time?

Like a graph showing if there's a time of the day (or a day of the week) when the premium is especially high or low, or when depth is maximal, for a specific currency?

72 sats \ 3 replies \ @optimism OP 16 Feb

Yes. I started working on this Friday evening and then decided to postpone the feature. I think that persistence needs careful design and thought: we of course don't want to deanonymize people by patterns they accidentally create.

There are some nasty data elements in the protocol, like a geolocation pair and usernames/hashes that may turn a statistics app into a surveillance tool - I'm not sure if the protocol and its users are ready to defend against that, yet. When we do, it would be good to also have a recommendation to help people counter a passive observer - this needs some preparation and study of what defenses are in place.

100 sats \ 1 reply \ @siggy47 16 Feb

You raise important issues. Have you brought this up with devs?

36 sats \ 0 replies \ @optimism OP 16 Feb

Not yet. I'm a big fan of doing some research first - prevents wasting precious developer time. But I will if I find a tangible risk.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @namosca 3 Jun freebie

User names are random and created from zero each time a person opens robosats.

Which other data you think might help track people?

The developer of robosats is aware of this tread and might make some use of what you consider "tracking info"

100 sats \ 3 replies \ @siggy47 16 Feb

What would also really be nice would be a way to track the premium/discount of the various fiat payment methods.

36 sats \ 2 replies \ @optimism OP 16 Feb

Logged it as a feature request: http://gg6zxtreajiijztyy5g6bt5o6l3qu32nrg7eulyemlhxwwl6enk6ghad.onion/optimism/robostats/issues/2

If the premium field from the market endpoints is reliable (I'd want to do the math to double check) then this can be easy.

PS: I did see some offers discounting gift cards by up to 10% - not sure if that's an actual business model or a scam model w/ carded or fake gift cards.

100 sats \ 1 reply \ @siggy47 16 Feb

Re gift cards. It's legit. I have personal experience. Amazon cards seem to typically carry a 5% premium to buy bitcoin. Google Play cards are higher- I have seen 15%.

36 sats \ 0 replies \ @optimism OP 16 Feb

Thanks! That's good info.

100 sats \ 0 replies \ @Jon_Hodl 16 Feb

Great to see this at a glance.

Thanks for sharing.

100 sats \ 0 replies \ @LibertasBR 16 Feb

Thank you for making this more transparent.

100 sats \ 0 replies \ @siggy47 16 Feb

Thanks for this. I was checking it out earlier. Unfortunately my meetup got cancelled due to weather, but I will spread the word.

21 sats \ 0 replies \ @moptosh 8 Mar

Merci du partage