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112 sats \ 4 replies \ @SimpleStacker OP 18h \ parent \ on: Who are the best intellectual defenders of stronger intervention in Ukraine? Politics_And_Law
You're making my point for me. You aren't aware of and haven't responded to any of the points raised
You make your own point, sir. Answer my question and I'll consider some of yours. Use the home example and explain your perspective, please.
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Sure. It's like the richer neighbor (Russia) repeatedly warned the poorer neighbor (Ukraine) and its friends (US & Europe) not to keep launching fireworks from their backyard because it makes them feel unsafe. Despite this, you and your friends just keep launching more and more fireworks. The rich neighbor, Russia, then proceeds to take over 1/5 of the poor neighbor's property (Ukraine). The poor neighbor resists, but resistance is causing property damage and more than that it's causing the loss of innocent life. Despite not having any hope of actually retaking the lost property, the poor neighbor continues to resist and ask for resources to help resisting, without any plan for actually succeeding which would just result in further stalemate and loss of life.
By the way, I'm not saying that Russia was morally justified or that its fears about Ukraine were ever justified. I'm just saying that what happened was entirely predictable and could have been avoided. Moreover, I'm saying that I see no path to a restoration of Ukraine's borders to what they were prior to the invasion.
If you think the analogies are unhelpful, you can always just watch the cases laid out by John Mearsheimer and others. Essentially, they're all saying that this was entirely predictable based on US & European actions, but that they went ahead and did it anyway.
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I'm not impressed by hindsighters saying something was predictable. Even if it agrees with my perspective.
And for me moral is moral. Take my property. Prepare for a flight. Even if it is a terroristic one.
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They are not hindsighters. The whole point is that people have been warning about this outcome for years. Maybe decades.
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