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I grew up listening to Rush Limbaugh. At the time I thought "liberals" were anti-war. I thought being anti-war was dumb. Everyone is anti-war! That's a lie. I wasn't anti-war and neither were the liberals. Turns out this was just a hangover from the hippie revolution. Which, turns out wasn't anything but a big party about self indulgence. But that's another post. Back in the 80s and 90s conservatives were the war hawks(At least the openly hawkish). They wanted to extend US power abroad. They wanted to flip countries. They did all kinds of shady things all over the globe. While they never pretended to be anti-war, they didn't admit to the US being an empire.
Over the years my eyes began to open the how global conflicts work. I started paying attention to Ron Paul. He made a lot of sense. I read "Confessions of an Economic Hitman". I read "War is a Racket". I read many other books that they don't tell you about in school. Critical books on US policy from the perspective of people that love this country as much as I do. I began to learn how the well connected bankers, industrialists, and politicians all profit from endless wars. How the elites have convinced the plebs that war isn't all bad. After all, it brought us out of the great depression...(another lie that I won't get into). I remember when the wall fell, when the USSR fell. I remember when the US essentially picked a drunk Russian to lead the new Russian nation. I remember when the US sent in economists to advise the Russians on how to do democracy and free markets. It was a disaster by the way. It led to the rise of Putin. A strong man (ala Trump) that wasn't ideological but was more practical and more raw in his use of power.
I think many have forgotten the early years of post USSR Russia. The push for peace and normalization of relations. I remember thinking how great that was. But that wouldn't stand. I'm convinced the Military Industrial Complex was in full panic mode after the USSR fell. Their entire reason for living had died. Sure, there were other adventures that went on that were good money making opportunities like Iraq war 1 but it wasn't anything like the cold war.
Then 911 happened. The war on terror seemed like the next money maker for these industries. The problem is that these conflicts are not like the cold war. They are mostly small decentralized groups whose tactics do not warrant massive stockpiles of weapons. Not to the level of the cold war at least. So who would be the next opponent? Would it be China? I mean back in those times there were people saying that but this was before the liberalizing of China towards more free market mechanisms. At least they had yet to see the growth we see today. There wasn't a new enemy.
With the war on terror and the Bush doctrine W completely dropped his pitch that he ran on. He campaigned on the US NOT being the world's police. Sounds a lot like Trump's approach. Different packaging it but the same idea. Strong defense but let each nation handle their own affairs. You see, after WW2 there were two powers that ruled the world. The USSR and the USA. I would call them empires. One fell and one is still alone at the top. The good ole USA.
Conservatives HATE it when I call the USA an empire. I mean, I get it. We are taught that empires are bullies and how could the USA be a bully. We defeated the Nazis. We saved the world. But the USA is an empire. Liberals usually will agree with me that the USA is an empire. However, they seem to quickly forget this every time a new war is being pitched. Unless it is by a Republican. But even then if their party leadership approves they approve. It is true that the US uses soft power most of the time but the USA has used raw power and muscle many times. Between 1945 and 1999 the USA has had 32 distinct and separate bombing campaigns on 24 different countries. This does not include all the covert operations.
By in large the US population has supported their government's use of power. That's not just conservatives but liberals as well. I have come to believe that Americans just lie to themselves because the truth makes them uncomfortable. Maybe some of the uses of power have been for the better. I'm open to that argument. But don't kid yourself. Many have to be failures if not just simple actions to enrich well connected people across the globe. Only a fool would believe liars that have a history of misrepresenting the truth. That's what politicians do. They pitch every war as a moral good yet quietly support oppressive regimes across the globe that are guilty of the same crimes. The moral case for war is often just marketing.
If you ask most Americans they are concerned about China and Russia. I am as well by the way. But think about this. If you weren't an American. If you lived in one of those countries what would you fear? I think you'd fear the good ole US of A. Lets play a game.
If you were an alien and landed on this planet. You saw that one government had bombed 24 countries over the last 75 years. Then you looked at another that had not bombed or invaded any countries over that time span. Who would you think is the more likely aggressor? The USA. Not China (which hasn't invaded or bombed any other nations since WW2).
If you're thinking. Man, this guy is anti-American! I have news for you. You are biased. You are blind. I'm NOT anti-American. I'm anti-empire. If on the other hand you think yeah, the US is an empire and it needs to be. I can respect that. What I can't respect is people that wanna take the moral high ground while supporting the empire. You are being fooled by the elites and the media system they control. You are a pawn. Don't be a pawn. I was once a pawn. Open your mind. We can do better. We are Americans. Those that want us to turn our decedents into debt slaves are the anti-Americans. Those that do not blink an eye at the idea of sending someone else's children to there death are the anti-Americans. Those that seem to have zero fear of starting a nuclear war are the ones that hate Americans.
Good to hear your perspective as a US citizen. Here's mine as a citizen of a nation militarily and monetarily subservient to the US, and before that Britain, New Zealand. Since WW2 the US took over from the British empire in a largely gentlemanly transition- the Brits kept their offshore banking tax havens financial network and a still significant military but definitely came to be secondary and support to the US empire.
USSRs defeat in Afghanistan precipitated the collapse of the USSR which had always had a significantly smaller economy than the west and without the ability to quickly monetise the vast oil and gas reserves in Khazakstan/central asia, was no longer viable. After that it seems like USA was exceptional and would rule uncontested. Not to be- China rose fueled by liberalisation and free trade and a politburo mostly composed of engineers who had discovered how to reverse engineer the wests technology and imperialism. Today USA is mired in the compromise and exhausting complexity of power- it carries an unsustainable level of debt - while China enjoys large and growing trade surpluses with most nations on earth. China has won the trade war- and dominance in trade requires a nation to secure resources and trade routes- Belt and Road. Today China sponsors Russia and Iran- buying their energy exports and facilitating payment via alternative mechanisms to SWIFT/USD. China is challenging the west/USA. It must if it wishes to continue to grow. This contest seems unlikely to be as gentlemanly as the transition from British to US global hegemony. China is a very different culture to the west. Perhaps a bipolar or multi-polar world can develop without too much bloodshed if the US decides to retreat into a regional hegemony and leaves its global power to others to fight over. But whatever happens there is going to be change and casualties. I can understand Americans wishing to step back from global hegemony but at the same time, living in New Zealand where we are both closely aligned with western values and military and banking structures and also now highly dependent upon the Chinese economy, it is a future of uncertainty and insecurity. For five centuries the west has dominated the globe- overwhelming all other nations and cultures- seizing territory and resources and enjoying relative wealth and privilege- this may be coming to an end. What a world where China is equal to or superior in power to the US might be like is difficult to imagine, especially for those who have benefited from western imperialism. But it is increasingly a realistic prospect, and whatever else Trump is doing, he is forcing us to see this, and deal with it.`
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For five centuries the west has dominated the globe- overwhelming all other nations and cultures- seizing territory and resources and enjoying relative wealth and privilege- this may be coming to an end
Yep, that is very possible.
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64 sats \ 4 replies \ @lrm_btc 16h
They hyperfixate on who "wins" the war. They fail to see that caring who wins the war is supportive of war.
Sun Tzu said that the winners have won before any battles take place, and the losers fight in the hope of winning.
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China has won the trade war - they are not engaging in crude military adventures and that's smart- instead they buy cheap oil and gas from Iran and Russia and let them do the dirty work. Sun Tzu would be impressed. #910676
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70 sats \ 1 reply \ @kepford OP 15h
Curious what you think of John Perkins thoughts on his recent appearance on the Bitcoin Standard Podcast. He talked about China's approach to economic hitmen and how they have sought to make friends vs. the US approach of using muscle if leaders don't play ball. Clearly they have been doing very well in Africa and even Latin-America. I'm not a fan of either government but I found the conversation interesting.
I think most Americans have a hard time being objective about their own government. I mean, I used to as well. Its a mental trap. In the US and likely China as well we are programmed that the government is the country and being critical of it is somehow unpatriotic. Its absurd but its what I run into any time I'm critical of the US historical actions.
You can critize politics all day but don't dare talk bad about any of the sacred cows of the US.
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Yes from what I have listened to of the podcast Perkins is telling it how it is. Empire is expensive- you use military muscle to 'leverage' trade and resource access. You use banks and monetary hegemony to facilitate ongoing domination below the threat of military aggression. China learned this in the Opium Wars and took more than a century to assimilate the experience and come back fighting- now they are in a good position to understand the dynamics of other countries who were equally if not even more brutally subjugated by western imperialism- Africa, S.E.Asia, Latin America. China is building infrastructure and economic capacity globally - they can build Lithium processing plant at 1/4 the cost the west can- and this capacity is replicated across the board of commodities and manufacturing. China was stood over and subjugated by Britain but has come back with a politburo of engineers who are implementing a second industrial revolution on Chinas terms. Now China has won the trade war in commodities and manufactured goods (except the highest tech levels but even there they are gaining ground) and so China must now carry the burden of empire- how they will do this remains to be seen but they have made no secret of seeking an alternative to being held under US institutional and protocol frameworks. They are now enabling trade payments for Iran and Russia demonstrating an alternative near full service import export option alternative to US/Western Imperialism. The USSR once offered a similar alternative although it was never as competitive as China now offers. Will China become entangled in the military obligations and implications of empire in the same way USA has? In S.E. Asia it appears they are already in control of Myanmar military Cambodia and Laos. In Myanmar they are requesting assistance from Thailand to stamp out ethic resistance groups who retain territory on the border areas. China is building bullet trains through Laos, Thailand, Myanmar and Thailand which will eventually go via Malaysia to Singapore- reverse engineering the rail network seized and built by Japan in WW2 which sought to cut off British supplies the to the western leaning Chinese government who had retreated the Chongqing. I would like to think China, having experienced being subjugated could be a more benign empire but is such a thing even possible? It is in our dna to organise and compete for resources. To gain domination comes at a cost as every empire in decline seems to realise but only too late- perhaps China may be different? To be optimistic ~ it may not be too late for The West and China to work together in a competitive but constructive manner- similar to the model the Bitcoin protocol demonstrates! If Bitcoin was accepted on both sides as a neutral monetary protocol enabling trade and freeing participants of coercion and hegemony, the military side of things might also be at least reduced? Britain used the cannon to then position its banks in Hong Kong. China is now in the early stages of reverse engineering the global banking - trade payments network via Hong Kong. I hope they do not simply repeat the model we imposed upon them but build something more equitable and sustainable.
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Indeed
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37 sats \ 1 reply \ @jgbtc 16h
Middle East terrorists were the new boegey man well before 9/11. Almost immediately after the USSR fell, I'd say they barely skipped a beat. The Six Day war and then the Iranian revolution primed the pump. But 9/11 took it to a whole nother level of course.
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Yep, that is true
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