10 sats \ 8 replies \ @nerd2ninja 8 Nov 2022 \ parent \ on: How to Pay Your Employees w/ Bitcoin (a simple guide for the non-tech small biz) bitcoin
No! Including the option for more functionality doesn't make something "advanced". You don't have to set up your own servers with Phoenix, its just an option that you'd only find out about by digging in the settings.
Correct. But digging into the settings and modifying configuration isn't something the everyday normie knows how to do right off the bat, hence Muun is more for novices because that's not an option for them (AFAIK).
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You're giving me a brain aneurism, I use phoenix and I have not bothered with any settings or dug into any configurations, and I use the thing to buy coffee from El Salvador all the time and fund it with a cash app LN transfer.
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ALL WALLETS for the most part are easy to use. But when you start messing with the settings, you should have some idea of what you're doing.
If something like this gave you an aneurism, might want to switch to decaf.
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I'm never switching to decaf. I gotta support the Bitcoin ecosystem with the real coffee beans man XD
What I'm getting at though, is that your guide makes it out like Phoenix is harder to use than muun, it is not.
Wallets with less options: Muun
Wallets with more options: Phoenix
Comes off way different than
Wallets that are easy: Muun
Wallets that nerds use (and therefore are hard): Phoenix
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"I'm never switching to decaf. I gotta support the Bitcoin ecosystem with the real coffee beans man XD" My dude. Yes.
So the guide is meant for the non-tech oriented individual, who has no clue what they're doing other than buying or wanting to earn Bitcoin.
If wallets were degrees, in the eyes of normies Muun is an High School diploma while Phoenix, Zap and Zeus are PhDs. At least this is what personal experience trying to on board normie businesses has shown me.
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Why is Phoenix a PhD? You do not have to touch the gear icon. Its always there if you get curious, but there is no need to touch it.
I mean the way you're putting this, Android would be simpler if they got rid of the settings menu and removed the ability to turn off wifi, location, bluetooth and all these things were just on all the time and the user is given no option to ever see or touch it.
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Maybe I'm wrong, but from my understanding...
Muun, you can do on-chain and Lightning payments without having to open channels or deal with swaps.
Phoenix (Zap, and Zeus) it's a Lightning Wallet only, you can mess with the settings, and you do need to be mindful of people cheating, not so much as Muun.
Again, I could be wrong.
But how would you frame it for the everyday person who's only tech know-how is sending an email?
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No you're completely wrong. With muun you have to trust that when you send your on-chain payment, that muun will send a lightning payment in return (muun isn't actually a lightning wallet. Its just on-chain payments to pay for a lightning payment which they call a swap).
Phoenix, (which you should not be putting Zap and Zeus into the same category as, I think you might be thinking of Eclair) by default does a trampoline channel with ACINQ, not random strangers. You are trusting ACINQ not to force close the channel while your phone isn't running the app, but if they did force close to dishonestly take your funds, you would notice whereas with a custodial wallet you would not notice until it went bankrupt.