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Over the past few decades, the credit-card market has quietly transformed into two credit-card markets: one offering generous benefits to wealthy Americans, the other offering expensive debt to the poor, with the latter subsidizing the former.
In the credit-card industry, the well-to-do are known as transactors. They pay off their balance in full every month, avoiding late fees and interest charges. They use credit cards as a convenient payment method, and as a way to earn travel points, cash back, airport-lounge vouchers, seat upgrades, and other goodies.
In contrast, the have-nots are known as revolvers. Revolvers are subprime borrowers who use credit cards as a payment tool and as a short-term loan, to cover surprise expenses and groceries the week before payday. Such customers tend to take out no-frills cards, without lavish cash-back rewards and travel points. They also tend to carry a balance from month to month, and sometimes from month to month to month to month.
I’m skeptical of the poor subsidizing the rich claim. Credit card companies aren’t constantly soliciting my patronage because they expect to get nothing out of it.
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147 sats \ 3 replies \ @gmd 20 Mar
Yeah I think the rich who don't care to optimize credit card points make up for it in volume of spend, and the card companies make their profit in interchange fees.
Amex Platinum for example has become a status card but is relatively difficult to extract full benefits unless you travel a lot, it's a frustrating coupon book.
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Those credit card fees are bank. I think the typical fee is like 2.9%! That's why they go after the rich customers. Imagine skimming 2.9% off everything the rich peoples buy
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That's a really good point. Even for a normal cheapskate like me, they don't need me to carry a balance to make money off of me.
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10 sats \ 0 replies \ @gmd 20 Mar
Yeah unless they all move to the US Bank Smartly 4% card... I don't see how that's sustainable for them, I imagine they'll be nerfing more and more benefits (disable for rent, tax payments, etc)
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Fair. It's a pretty cartoonish description. I have both rich and poor friends that carry credit card balances. Maybe the real difference is rationality wrt money.
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I think that's right. They offer me a combination of goodies and interest rates that I'm expected to pay more than I receive.
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I pay 95 bucks a year for my Marriott Bonvoy Amex (which has been discontinued, new users can get Chase Visa)
I have been a member since 2011. previously Starwood Amex then Marriott purchased Starwood
I get one free night per year which makes up for the annual fee
I have to admit I received better treatment than I expected from a residence inn after paying for my stay with points
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I have a love hate with credit cards. But yeah both banks and the credit card companies make a lot of their revenue on swipe fees.
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57 sats \ 2 replies \ @gmd 21 Mar
What's to hate?
I recently picked up playing the churning game as a fun hobby... I'm on my 5th credit card this year, alternating between business and personal cards... fun way to pick up tax free miles and big signup bonuses.
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Creates a central pool of money with no owner rather than the money being held by the individual owners.
This allows for expenditures to take place that the owners aren't willing to pay for as long as they're profitable.
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It perpetuates this fiat hellscape we are in
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Could we make a credit card backed by crypto that was like some kinda micro lending thing... you could have multiple people put in for collateral to reduce risk to the person providing capital. Then banks aren't making the money and you can offer cards to less economically fortunate
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and bitcoiners should forget both kinds, as we don't have any taxable income to show
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