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A walking dialog on what the right trade-off balance might be. Est. 882,690. Inspired by Sovereign Engineering https://njump.me/sovereignengineering.io Nostr: https://njump.me/nosolutions@sovereignengineering.io Feed: https://sovereignengineering.io/dialogues.xml
@derGigi & @pablof7z discourses:

"With the shift towards this multi-agent collaboration and orchestration world, you need a neutral substrate that has money, identity, cryptography, and web-of-trust  baked in, to make everything work."

Pablo & Gigi are getting high on glue nostr.
Books and articles mentioned:
In this dialogue:
  • vibeline & vibeline-ui
  • LLMs as tools, and how to use them
  • Vervaeke: AI thresholds & the path we must take
  • Hallucinations and grounding in reality
  • GPL, LLMs, and open-source licensing
  • Pablo's multi-agent Roo setup
  • Are we going to make programmers obsolete?
  • "When it works it's amazing"
  • Hiring & training agents
  • Agents creating RAG databases of NIPs
  • Different models and their context windows
  • Generalists vs specialists
  • "Write drunk, edit sober"
  • DVMCP.fun
  • Recklessness and destruction of vibe-coding 
  • Sharing secrets with agents & LLMs 
  • The "no API key" advantage of nostr
  • What data to trust? And how does nostr help? 
  • Identity, web of trust, and signing data 
  • How to fight AI slop
  • Marketplaces of code snippets 
  • Restricting agents with expert knowledge 
  • Trusted sources without a central repository 
  • Zapstore as the prime example 
  • "How do you fight off re-inventing GitHub?" 
  • Using large context windows to help with refactoring 
  • Code snippets for Olas, NDK, NIP-60, and more
  • Using MCP as the base 
  • Using nostr as the underlying substrate 
  • Nostr as the glue & the discovery layer 
  • Why is this important? 
  • Why is this exciting? 
  • "With the shift towards this multi-agent collaboration and orchestration world, you need a neutral substrate that has money/identity/cryptography and web-of-trust  baked in, to make everything work."
  • How to single-shot nostr applications 
  • "Go and create this app" 
  • The agent has money, because of NIP-60/61
  • PayPerQ 
  • Anthropic and the genius of mcp-tools 
  • Agents zapping & giving SkyNet more money 
  • Are we going to run the mints? 
  • Are agents going to run the mints? 
  • How can we best explain this to our bubble? 
  • Let alone to people outside of our bubble? 
  • Building pipelines of multiple agents 
  • LLM chains & piped Unix tools 
  • OpenAI vs Anthropic 
  • Genius models without tools vs midwit models with tools 
  • Re-thinking software development 
  • LLMs allow you to tackle bigger problems 
  • Increased speed is a paradigm shift 
  • Generalists vs specialists, left brain vs right brain 
  • Nostr as the home for specialists 
  • fiatjaf publishing snippets (reluctantly) 
  • fiatjaf's blossom implementation 
  • Thinking with LLMs
  • The tension of specialization VS generalization 
  • How the publishing world changed
  • Stupid faces on YouTube thumbnails 
  • Gaming the algorithm 
  • Will AI slop destroy the attention economy? 
  • Recency bias & hiding publication dates 
  • Undoing platform conditioning as a success metric 
  • Craving realness in a fake attention world 
  • The theater of the attention economy 
  • What TikTok got "right" 
  • Porn, FoodPorn, EarthPorn, etc. 
  • Porn vs Beauty 
  • Smoothness and awe 
  • "Beauty is an angel that could kill you in an instant (but decides not to)."
  • The success of Joe Rogan & long-form conversations 
  • Smoothness fatigue & how our feeds numb us 
  • Nostr & touching grass 
  • How movement changes conversations 
  • LangChain & DVMs 
  • Central models vs marketplaces 
  • Going from assembly to high-level to conceptual 
  • Natural language VS programming languages 
  • Pablo's code snippets 
  • Writing documentation for LLMs
  • Shared concepts, shared language, and forks 
  • Vibe-forking open-source software 
  • Spotting vibe-coded interfaces 
  • Visualizing nostr data in a 3D world 
  • Tweets, blog posts, and podcasts 
  • Vibe-producing blog posts from conversations 
  • Tweets are excellent for discovery 
  • Adding context to tweets (long-form posts, podcasts, etc) 
  • Removing the character limit was a mistake 
  • "Everyone's attention span is rekt"
  • "There is no meaning without friction" 
  • "Nothing worth having ever comes easy" 
  • Being okay with doing the hard thing
  • Growth hacks & engagement bait
  • TikTok, theater, and showing faces and emotions
  • The 1% rule: 99% of internet users are Lurkers
  • "We are socially malnourished"
  • Web-of-trust and zaps bring realness
  • The semantic web does NOT fix this LLMs might
  • "You can not model the world perfectly"
  • Hallucination as a requirement for creativity

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