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The world is also full of people born into situations where they'll suffer and they overcome that suffering to have fulfilling and joyful lives. The world is also full of people born into good situations. It is impossible to have a life with no suffering.
Besides the people in the situations you are talking about are not the ones questioning having kids. It is primarily privileged westerners.
"the ethics of creating someone who has no control over their existence". They have no control over having been born (existing) but once they are are old enough to be self sufficient they have control over what they can do with their existence and they can choose to end it if they like.
It is primarily privileged Westerners
Some of the biggest antinatalist movements are actually in India and China.
And they can choose to end it if they like
But if they choose to, surpassing the instincts of self-preservation, it’s not very easy or painless to opt out (lol). I’m kind of on the side of natalism these days because I must believe that there is hope in life, but the antinatalist arguments are much more convincing.
Thanks for the responses, I will think more about the theme.
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It is primarily privileged Westerners
Some of the biggest antinatalist movements are actually in India and China.
There are numerous ways to expand the debate about anti-natalism. For instance, scholars of religion have had little to say about anti-natalism, but it is unclear that they can completely dismiss certain of these arguments out of hand. Additionally, the debate about anti-natalism has primarily been conducted within the context of Western philosophy. It is an open question how the arguments for anti-natalism would be evaluated by various non-Western ethical theories. Finally, environmental ethics and population ethics have had little to say about anti-natalism, and as such there are many avenues for further exploration.
b. Anti-Natalism and Non-Western Ethics
The philosophical literature on anti-natalism is dominated by those working in Western philosophy.
Is your own source not contradicting you?
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