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I don't think in 2025. There will probably be a lot of talk about it right after the election but it will be a wait and see kind of thing. If Carney doesn't offer an olive branch to Alberta maybe next year there will be a referendum. Seems unlikely this year.

Is this something Albertans are prone to?

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There’s a lot of “new” albertans who still identify as Canadian as their primary identity. Need to accelerate in the collapse for them to see the light of independence / 51 state

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I recall from the first time I drove through western Canada that there was a really strong yearning for independence from Ontario, but I didn't sense it at all the most recent time through.

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Probably more rural areas vs city would make a difference

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It was just a different vibe in mostly the same places. Who knows if it's meaningful, but Western Canada seemed pretty different culturally: more like the Pacific Northwest than the Mountain West.

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BC or AB? BC is definitely more like Seattle / Oregon vibe

AB is like Texas

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Both, but we spent more time in BC and Yukon Territory each time.

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Yes, I feel like currently only 20-30% of the province would vote to leave regardless.

Shit needs to get worse before it gets better

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