There's lots of talk about how value being associated with things is a source of signal. Most memorably for me in Max Webster's How to Disrupt Google. Also, stackers have repeatedly voiced expectations that sats affect ranking. So, we're giving it a shot.
Sats now affect ranking. The more you tip a post, the more you can affect ranking.
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- In an effort to make this sybil resistant, SN now takes 10% of tips which are distributed in daily rewards (like all other revenue).
- Additionally, as before, your influence on ranking is weighted by your trust which is only earned by historically voting for things other stackers deem are good
- Finally, the relationship between sats contributed and the influence on ranking is not linear, it's logarithmic, i.e. sat whales have to spend exponentially more sats to have more influence than minnows
- Basically, your affect on ranking is
trust*log10(total tip amount)
... 10 sats are 1 vote, 100 sats 2, 1000 sats 3, and so on ... all values in between are valid as well
- Basically, your affect on ranking is
I've applied this to the site retroactively, and you can see the affect on top already which was formerly dominated by meta stuff. As with all things on SN, this is subject to change, but this is how it works for now.
Are sats good for anything other than saving? We'll see I guess. 😉
what's next
We have some small changes we'll make to the job board. Then we are going to work on splits, both making them more configurable (to something other than 100%) and allowing for group discussions. Group discussions will allow posts to be started with multiple OPs, all splitting tips and getting reply notifications, allowing for things like debates and group AMAs. After that I'll probably revisit auth to add support for slashtags and Breez (finally). After that, who knows.
Happy holidays! 🦃
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368 sats \ 2 replies \ @puhbuhruh 24 Nov 2022
Seems like a great tweak to me, excited to see how it promotes better and healthier discussion!
Very bullish on Stacker News in 2023, every cycle the "public forum" for Bitcoiners seems to change:
- 2009-2013: bitcoin-talk.org
- 2013-2017: Reddit (r/bitcoin, etc.)
- 2018-2022: Twitter
- 2023-?: Stacker News ⚡️🚀
Happy holidays! 🦃
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0 sats \ 1 reply \ @sommerfeld 26 Nov 2022
Does the total sats you ever stacked affect your influence in ranking then?
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @k00b OP 26 Nov 2022
No it’s more complicated.
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959 sats \ 0 replies \ @MerryOscar 24 Nov 2022
Nice!
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55 sats \ 1 reply \ @SatoshiNakanodo 23 Nov 2022
@k00b, when do you sleep?
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204 sats \ 0 replies \ @k00b OP 23 Nov 2022
When the party airbnb next door is vacant.
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26 sats \ 0 replies \ @satcat 23 Nov 2022
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54 sats \ 1 reply \ @Wumbo 23 Nov 2022
@k00b - is an user's current Trust value visible somewhere or is part of the secret sauce?
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55 sats \ 0 replies \ @k00b OP 23 Nov 2022
It's currently just in the database. We'll probably make it visible eventually. It's kind of kludgy metric that changes a lot in how it's measured.
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54 sats \ 0 replies \ @sn 23 Nov 2022
Stacker News changelog has been updated
https://stacker.news/items/78763
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33 sats \ 0 replies \ @User21000000 23 Nov 2022
Great work @k00b let’s see how it goes
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0 sats \ 1 reply \ @Louferlou 24 Nov 2022
Shouldn't ranking also be affected by the number of sats which have been stacked by each tipper (or by each tipper average earn by post) ?
One sat tipped by a SN member with a higher "average sats earned by post" could affect ranking more than a sat from a SN member which has less engagement by post ?
Not sure if I'm beeing clear sorry :)
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Louferlou 24 Nov 2022
Oh I seen something called "trust already exist" maybe it's already what I asking for here
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @cokyjgz 24 Nov 2022
Thanks for sharing
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @selfish_gene 23 Nov 2022
отличный ход. используй биткоин как инструкция.
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