I think generally the population, specially in the west is in very poor shape. Or people are trying to solve their mental health issues by overexercising. Moderation is rarely the case nowadays it feels.

I feel I'm so far away from the strength and stamina of my grandad when he was twice my age and i'm decently active person, I just havent spent much of my life doing physical labor.

Men are meant to be strong, we should go out and be able to kill our dinner, fight to protect our family (and i don't mean with strangers on the internet) and be able to build a house. Be harder to kill. Not run marathons or jerk off in the gym every day trying to look more chiseled for instagram.

I've had a post brewing for a while called something like "What even is fitness?"

You're reminding that I need to do that.

Jordan Peterson

I agree fitness seems dead but I use Smiles to earn sats and compete and stay active and it seems to motivate me to exercise more

Reminds me of Dr. Chris Palmer, recently on the Huberman podcast, discussing the crucial link between metabolic health, particularly mitochondrial function, and overall physical and mental health. He lists exactly six pillars for good health:

100%. Bitcoin has gotten my farther down this rabbit hole. I also have two young boys and am in my mid 40’s so gotta take care of myself. I ate too much high processed card garbage in the past. Lots of meat, ice bath, outside shirtless run in the sun today!

Agree with the meat thing for sure. And the quote is from Fiat Food.

As I go longer as carnivore, I'm now very unexcited about fish and chicken even. I'll eat them, but give me BEEF any day. And I just had some mixed beef/lamb meatballs, they were great.

I'll throw this out there for discussion - Extreme exercise causing early aging.

Yes, this is an anecdote, but I think it's telling. I know two guys in my neighborhood who are (now WERE) absolutely insane about exercising. Multiple ironman, running long distances, just insane levels of pushing themselves.

And now, in ages ranging from mid 60 to early 70 - they're looking really bad. The early 70 guy - I haven't gotten details on his health, if he has any specific condition, but WOW I don't think the constant Ironman competitions did him any good. I saw him just last night and he's very slow in walking and needs a cane. The other guy in his mid 60's was a really insane exerciser and even now works out as intensely as he can every single day, which isn't nearly as much as before. He's vegetarian leaning (I'm not sure if he's 100%), very hunched over, and just ... frail. Has had some falls when hiking.

Yes, just anecdotes, but I think I've heard about this before - people that do the really extreme exercise tend to age more quickly.

Thoughts? Me, I exercise, but nowhere near as extreme as these people.