Government-Assisted Suicide Is Spreading Across The Western World \ stacker news ~alter

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Check out this quote:

As of 2024, 1 out of every 20 deaths in Canada was a government assisted suicide.

Is that insane, or what?

My first exposure to government-assisted suicide was a year or so back. I believe it was on a bitcoin podcast. The guy being interviewed was a medical professional in Canada, who was upset about being PRESSURED to continually force the topic of assisted suicide onto his clients. And it wasn't just once, he was told to bring it up again and again. I had no idea it was at that level.

Here's the first paragraph

Is it humanitarian empathy, or a nihilistic death cult that desires a legal rationale for population control? The legislative push for government assisted euthanasia in the western world is one of the most guarded topics in establishment media. Nothing negative or critical can be said and all concerns are dismissed as "conspiracy theory". The government run suicide apparatus is a pure and loving function of progressive society...and how dare you suggest otherwise. This month officials in England, Wales and Scotland will be considering legislation to legalize government assisted euthanasia (End Of Life bills), with laws similar to those passed in Canada in 2016.

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234 sats \ 7 replies \ @elvismercury 9h

I don't know anything about this particular case, but I'll front-run the likely other comments and say that this is a service I would value, or at least, the unlocking of this service so that it could be legally provided.

I have loose plans to kill myself when life gets to the point where it's burdensome; I don't love the idea of heading into the woods and shooting myself in the head, which is my best current option. It's a more reliable one than trying to OD on something, and I lack the strength of character to jump off a bridge. But I can imagine fucking it up, whatever the method, and a botched attempt will be an even shittier outcome, for me and everyone around me.

This need, which we'll all encounter, seems like the kind of thing a sensible medical establishment should be able to help you with. The idea is not insane, to me. What's your plan?

61 sats \ 1 reply \ @398ja 7h

Some relatives of mine grow a plant in their garden for this occasion, the moment when their lives becomes unbearable, without any hope of improvement.

138 sats \ 0 replies \ @Signal312 OP 5h

Interesting...by chance do you know what plant this is, and if the passing would be easy? I'm curious because I'll bet a lot of people would be interested.

A story from a friend of mine who owns a private plane...this friend knows some other people in the flying community. One of them - let's call him Joe - was very seriously ill with a fatal, painful cancer. Joe knew that in higher elevations, you pass out without oxygen, and then you painlessly pass away. As pre-arranged, a couple of Joe's friends took him up for a flight very high up, where you'd normally need oxygen. The Joe took his oxygen mask off, and after a period of time, passed away.

140 sats \ 3 replies \ @Signal312 OP 8h

The problem is when government is pushing these options.

As in - aren't there some people who should be committing suicide, but aren't? Maybe we should encourage them?

130 sats \ 0 replies \ @elvismercury 8h

We can agree that the government encouraging a person to commit suicide is bad.

109 sats \ 0 replies \ @itsrealfake 8h

Agreed. Incentive alignment is very challenging when you have a high health care cost, and a government provided health care, and a government assisted suicide option.

30 sats \ 0 replies \ @stacks 7h

we can agree, everything the government pushes is bad ;)

34 sats \ 0 replies \ @SimpleStacker 6h

I'm not old enough yet to really think this through... but I think if my life is becoming a burden on myself and my family, with little hope for recovery... I would be open to ending my life early.

But I think my approach might be more along the lines of "Let the disease run its course, and help me manage the pain", rather than proactively, "Let me take some drugs that will kill me." I think there's a difference between the two, and I imagine that my family would see a big difference there too.

I think the "let the disease run its course" approach has the added benefit of being less abusable, since you won't be able to just psychologically pressure a mentally vulnerable person into ending their life.

34 sats \ 0 replies \ @LibertasBR 4h

It is a crime for the state to force someone to witness another person’s death — it is the worst form of coercion. Even if the person desires a painless death, they should do it alone. No one should assist in this, let alone be coerced into killing someone.

Suicide is one of the worst solutions a person could choose. I understand that it’s an individual decision and it should not receive approval or coercion from anyone. Unfortunately, assisted suicides happen every day without being called that — many people have the machines that keep them alive turned off, or are left to die by doctors who withdraw care. None of that is the same as what’s being discussed, but I still thought it was worth mentioning.

34 sats \ 0 replies \ @guerratotal 6h

When a society replaces transcendence with materialism, death becomes a service. A civilization that forgets the value of suffering, redemption, and human dignity inevitably industrializes despair. What starts as "compassion" soon becomes policy... then expectation.