Yeah, for sure. Climate change is real... that's not even a question really to me. The question is, is it caused by humans, or other factors and how much impact humans have on it. Then you can get into can we reverse it or should we even... at what cost? Most of this is never even considered or discussed. Like what is the human cost of the policies to reverse it? Are these polices even theoretically going to reverse it or just cost human lives?

Then we get into whether the politicians actually believe it. I don't think most of them do. They just see it as a way to gain power. A boogie man to gain power. A problem they can't solve but they can appear to care about. Its the perfect problem. Bigger than anyone and something that effects everyone. I find most discussions about it fruitless.

I try to do sustainable things in my life and I care for the environment. What I don't want though is socialism sold to me as an absolute need due to climate change. That's 99% of what we get shoved down our throats. No real desire to find common ground to reduce actual pollution. Fear mongering. Lies and exaggeration. I'm not an old man but I have heard the dire predictions my whole life and I'm immune to the sky is falling nonsense at this point.