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359 sats \ 7 replies \ @k00b OP 9 Jun
We respectfully ask Bitcoin Core contributors to prioritize the review and integration of CTV (PR #31989 or similar) and CSFS (PR #32247 or similar) within the next six months. We believe this timeline allows for rigorous final review and activation planning.
Something about this rubs me the wrong way. Shouldn't the people signing prioritize rigorous review and activation planning rather than assigning work to people that don't work for them? Maybe that's already been done?
If that's the case, maybe ask specific folks for review/involvement so that this doesn't suffer from a bystander effect and people don't continue to cry "why isn't anyone helping? Core isn't doing their job (which I define as them doing what I want when I want it)."
It's kind of weird to imagine people treating Core devs as badly as they treat normal open source devs, having had some experience with that, but I actually think they get treated much worse. Not only do people act like Core devs are their unpaid employees, they think they're their unpaid employees on something really important.
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Some of the people among the signatories were pushing "OP_CAT or gtfo" not many months ago. I've been in calls with a handful of them that were seeking support for their "cause". With the exception of literally a single soul among them, none would even entertain any arguments about Rusty's GSR proposal or CSFS back then. "It's inferior to OP_CAT". But now it isn't. I can't help but feel that for some of the people on there, this is just another lame pressure tool to get the Bitcoin protocol to change to support their vision.
"Core isn't doing their job"
Doing their job just fine I think: asking questions, raising concerns and contributing tests.
I actually think [Core devs] get treated much worse.
True, but feature, not bug. Ultimate scrutiny is preserved for those that have out of proportionate influence. The only way I can think of that to lessen is when the full node ecosystem decentralizes away from being 95%+ Bitcoin Core, but I am not sure if that is desirable (because split focus sucks and it also really had the worst possible outcome for the lost cousins over at BCH (chain fork upon chain fork), so history doesn't favor this either.)
Not only do people act like Core devs are their unpaid employees, they think they're their unpaid employees on something really important.
The misplaced illusion of entitlement is of course terrible, but that's been common in open source since forever.
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Shouldn't the people signing prioritize rigorous review and activation planning rather than assigning work to people that don't work for them?
Third party review is required. Not just review from people who have an interest in the outcome.
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144 sats \ 0 replies \ @nout 9 Jun
Some people like to push and it doesn't matter to them what they push.
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10 sats \ 2 replies \ @OT 9 Jun
It might have something to do with this?
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21 sats \ 1 reply \ @k00b OP 9 Jun
You mean because time was spent on that relatively inconsequential PR?
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10 sats \ 0 replies \ @OT 9 Jun
They might need it for CTV & CSFS?
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Core devs are their unpaid employees
Core devs in most cases are very highly paid NGO operatives employees
But players need the AstroTurf rolled out first, seems the field is almost ready
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1250 sats \ 0 replies \ @Scoresby 9 Jun
I'm not a Dev and have never made a review for a github project, but when I look at the two PRs mentioned in the letter (CTV #31989 and CSFS #32247), there are only a tiny handful of reviews (9 and 5). Couldn't more of the 40+ signatories submit reviews to help with the prioritization process?
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Btc dev politics is so fascinating!
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to the hoes in my neighborhood:
we believe it would be a good idea to desperately pursue me with abandon as it would make me look cooler to the other hoes not in my neighborhood, and though I am short and have a small d"*** my genes need to have the respect and placement they deserve in future generations.
the waiting has gone on long enough. at this rate it is not clear if I will ever father any children.
your indecisiveness is a disappointment to all cultures worldwide and frankly an embarrassment to womankind as a whole. Please get on with it already and go after me.
I am freshly perfumed and open to courtship and offers of all kinds.
don't keep dragging this on forever. it will only end in befuddlement.
Let's get this done shall we?
seriously it's time.
In graciousness and patience, the CTV+CSFS committee.
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0 sats \ 1 reply \ @anon 9 Jun
They can keep writing letters to shitcoin core. I guess nothing will happen until filters are fixed and incompetent core devs quit shitcoin core (aka malware). They actually made it worse today by merging controversial PR about enabling more shitcoinery on bitcoin.
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What are you talking about?
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