The US came out today and said they would not directly strike. They did not say if they were not going to provide indirect support like intelligence or aerial refueling or not
Uhhh considering Iran said yesterday they would strike US assets in Eastern Europe, the Middle East, and North Africa… not remotely feasible to be honest
We have satellites everywhere now Israel couldn’t strike a US base to get a response fragments would make it clear on top of the real time feeds we have
Wow @Cje95 you are really knowledgeable about this stuff. Honest question here. Why is the western world so against Iran having 1 nuke? When other evil empires like North Korea have them?
I mean off the top of my head when you fund terror organizations that directly impact the US like Iran has it’s an issue. There is a stark difference between North Korea and Iran that really boils down to North Korea has the fuel but it’s not really certain that they have a bomb that they could launch that could survive the aerodynamic pressures. Look at there failed satellite launches for instance. I mean even that boat they tried to launch a week or two ago… they couldn’t even launch a boat…
Iran is much more capable thus it is much more concerning that they would act upon this. I mean they have shelled US bases before under Trumps first term and their proxies have recently killed US troops. That’s not something North Korea is able to do.
Also China has North Korea on a pretty tight leash while the same isn’t the case for Iran.
The USA is a terrorist organisation and usurped the lawful Iranian government of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohammad_Mosaddegh installing US puppet Shah in order to steal Iranian oil and sovereignty.
Irans sovereignty will only be secure if/when they have nukes and Israels attacks now expose the very fragile situation in Iraq where Iranian militias have considerable influence.
Iran is backed by China and along with Russia is part of the Chinese backed challenge to US hegemony.Iran and iraq being originally separated by European imperialists in order to divide and rule the Persians.
Israel is a terrorist state and treats Palestinians the same way as Nazis treated Jewish people in the 1930s and 40s.
Jewish bankers control US empire via usury , as they have controlled western civilisation for centuries...and now the Jewish bankers risk losing their monetary power over the global economy if China succeeds in building an alternative trading and monetary system outside of Jewish bankers control.
China and Russia backing is really working out isnt it? Super dooper successful those russian air defense systems right? I mean to live in the wild wild fantasy land you are in where the US is going to roll over and die at any time is wild.
You have stated for months now how Russia is going to change finally claim Ukraine or China will do this or that and non of your stuff is remotely accurate. I mean in 500 years sure but ya know read the room and idk just do some basic research.
Your terrorist acusation would also make Iran, Russia, China, Saudi, UAE, India, Pakistan, South Africa, Rwanda, DRC, Mali, etc. are all terrorist orgs as well so cry me a river you cant just throw out labels at things without actually thinking about what that means.
You have not refuted any of the points I have raised.
You probably cant, so you fall back on a garbled completely incomprehensible misrepresentation that claims to.
The US is fucked without Chinese supply chains.
USA is broke without USD/SWIFT hegemony over trade payments protocols.
Iran and Russia are both dependent upon Chinese trade and trade payments protocols that maintain their economic viability despite US sanctions.
They both challenge, militarily, US hegemony while China profits from sale of goods and purchase of discounted oil and gas.
US hegemony is dependent upon USD/SWIFT hegemony- Trump admits this when he threatens BRICS members with 100% trade sanctions of they dare adopt Chinese payments protocols like CIPS and mBridge.
The Saudis have signed up to both.
Trump is managing the decline of US military, monetary, cultural and economic dominance.
Good luck selling those $7T USTs before Xmas.
The US didnt chose how to divide Persa and you really are giving the US a ton of credit with the Shah when it was the UK that was the one that was going to lose its oil access no the US.
I do not believe that the German Jews ever paid or created funds to pay for German Jews to kill other German citizens. Its odd because there is an Arabic party in Israelis legislative government and sure wasnt a Jewish one in German. Pretty sure that ya know the citizens of Israel who are Muslim yeah they have rights they even serve in the military when they do not have to which again Nazi Germany never did.
China has not been exactly thriving so I am not sure how you think this alternative is being built successfully given the BRICS countries are increasingly finding themselves in war. Ethiopia is once again facing an increaseing likelihood of internal war again and South Africa is becoming another internal mess as well.
Tell me which of these countries is exactly thriving to become to new leader? Who is actually innovating which is going to drive their economies? The US leads in fusion, quantum, AI and has done so with a fraction of the Federal Government support its been private money. No other country has that.
Blaming the Jews or claiming they control things is frankly a low IQ way to think. It requires no brain power or critical thinking skills and is the reason you tend to see it with the under or uneducated. You do not see intellectuals that think this way. Jewish culture places a high value on literacy, study, and intellectual inquiry from a young age so you are claiming they are doing things because well they are smart and teach their kids young.
Sixty years after the overthrow of Iranian Prime Minister Mohammad Mossadegh, a declassified CIA document acknowledges that the agency was involved in the 1953 coup.
The independent National Security Archive research institute, which published the document Monday, says the declassification is believed to mark the CIA’s first formal acknowledgment of its involvement.
The documents, declassified in 2011 and given to George Washington University research group under the Freedom of Information Act, come from the CIA’s internal history of Iran from the mid-1970s and paint a detailed picture of how the CIA worked to oust Mossadegh.
In a key line pointed out by Malcom Byrne, the editor who worked through the documents, the CIA spells out its involvement in the coup. “The military coup that overthrew Mossadeq and his National Front cabinet was carried out under CIA direction as an act of U.S. foreign policy, conceived and approved at the highest levels of government,” the document says, using a variation of the spelling of Mossadegh’s name.
While this might be the CIA’s first formal nod, the U.S. role has long been known.
President Barack Obama acknowledged the United States’ involvement in the coup during a 2009 speech in Cairo.
“In the middle of the Cold War, the United States played a role in the overthrow of a democratically elected Iranian government,” the president said.
In 2000, then-U.S. Secretary of State Madeleine Albright spoke of the intervention, and in the same year, the New York Times published what it said was a leaked 1954 CIA-written account of the overthrow.
Iranians elected Mossadegh prime minister in 1951. Quickly, the leader moved to nationalize oil production in the country – a move that would have been a serious blow to the United States and Britain and a win for the USSR.
Because of the failure of oil negotiations with Iran, along with a number of other issues, the United States was concerned “that Iran was in real danger of falling behind the Iron Curtain.”
“If that happened, it would mean a victory for the Soviets in the Cold War and a major setback for the West in the Middle East,” Donald N. Wilber, a principal planner of the mission, wrote within months of the overthrow. “It was the aim of the TPAJAX project” – that was the mission’s code name – “to cause the fall of the Mossadeq government; to reestablish the prestige and power of the Shah.”
Shortly after Mossadegh’s election, the CIA began to plan his overthrow. The goal of the coup was to elevate the strength of Shah Mohammad Reza Pahlavi and appoint a new prime minister – Gen. Fazlollah Zahedi.
Before the coup, the agency – along with the British Secret Intelligence Service – helped foment anti-Mossadegh fervor using propaganda, according to CIA documents. “In Iran, CIA and SIS propaganda assets were to conduct an increasingly intensified effort through the press, handbills and the Tehran clergy in a campaign designed to weaken the Mossadeq government in any way possible,” Wilber wrote.
On August 19, 1953, the coup swung into full effect as the CIA and British intelligence agency helped pull pro-Shah forces together and organized large protests against Mossadegh.
“The Army very soon joined the pro-Shah movement and by noon that day it was clear that Tehran, as well as certain provincial areas, were controlled by pro-Shah street groups and Army units,” Wilber wrote. “By the end of 19 August … members of the Mossadeq government were either in hiding or were incarcerated.”
In order to provide Zahedi, the country’s new prime minister, with some stability, the “CIA covertly made available $5,000,000 within two days of Zahedi’s assumptions of power.”
After the coup, Mossadegh was sentenced to death, but the sentence was never carried out. The former leader died in Tehran in 1967.
Even 60 years removed, the 1953 coup still hangs over U.S.-Iran relations.
Iranian politicians and religious leaders still use the coup as a way to foment anti-American sentiment. Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, Iranian president from 2005 until earlier this year, demanded apologies from the United States for “crimes” the CIA committed in Iran during the 1953 coup.
“The issue is more than academic,” wrote Byrne of George Washington University. “Political partisans on all sides, including the Iranian government, regularly invoke the coup to argue whether Iran or foreign powers are primarily responsible for the country’s historical trajectory, whether the United States can be trusted to respect Iran’s sovereignty, or whether Washington needs to apologize for its prior interference before better relations can occur.”
Nice obfuscation and cherry picking diversions but you have not credibly refuted anything.
Good luck selling those USTs...
Jewish bankers own the Fed, and the US government...as they owned the Brits until they moved to using the US as their vehicle.
The underlying conflict here is between Jewish bankers and the CCP.
'Eventually, the CIA's involvement with the coup was exposed. This caused controversy within the organisation and the CIA congressional hearings of the 1970s. CIA supporters maintained that the coup was strategically necessary and praised the efficiency of the agents responsible. Critics say the scheme was paranoid, colonial, illegal, and immoral—and truly caused the "blowback" suggested in the pre-coup analysis. The extent of this "blowback", over time, was not completely clear to the CIA, as they had an inaccurate picture of the stability of the Shah's regime. The Iranian revolution of 1979 caught the CIA and the U.S. very much off guard (as CIA reporting a mere month earlier predicted no imminent insurrectionary turbulence whatsoever for the Shah's regime) and resulted in the overthrow of the Shah by a fundamentalist faction opposed to the U.S., headed by Ayatollah Khomeini. In retrospect, not only did the CIA and the U.S. underestimate the extent of popular discontent for the Shah, but much of that discontent historically stemmed from the removal of Mosaddegh and the subsequent clientelism of the Shah.[118]
In March 2000, Secretary of State Madeleine Albright stated her regret that Mosaddegh was ousted: "The Eisenhower administration believed its actions were justified for strategic reasons. But the coup was clearly a setback for Iran's political development and it is easy to see now why many Iranians continue to resent this intervention by America."[8] In the same year, The New York Times published a detailed report about the coup based on declassified CIA documents.'
We know that this is part of the Greater Middle East Project (Greater Israel). Is Iran the only country in the world that enriches uranium? Why are other countries allowed?
I think its two or three countries that havent signed on to not develop nuclear bombs. Iran, North Korea and I think Syria. The rest and and they follow the International rules of enrichment which doesnt have you enrich it to 60-80%.
Next generation nuclear reactor fuel has a max enrichment of 15% it is called HALEU and that is the difference. You cannot take HALEU and make a nuclear bomb. Even within the countries that exist it is very very limited. Until the Russian invasion the US since the 90s had a program with Russia where they were reprocessing all there extra nuclear weapons into LEU (Low-Enriched Uranium) which the traditional nuclear reactors use. LEU is enriched to 5% tops.
Yes, I am aware. I am also against nuclear (weapons or energy). Only this nuclear excuse seemed very similar to the lie that chemical weapons are being produced in Iraq. If you are against nuclear weapons, you should destroy the nuclear warheads in your country without wasting time. They are not sincere. And they want these weapons to be the only ones in their possession in order to dominate the world.
Do I want war? Absolutely not. However when Donald Trump comes out and says the Iranian position is unacceptable after all the rounds of negotiation it shows they were not serious. They changed up like Hamas did with Israel and that means a deal was not possible.
Given the terror that Iran sows across the world and the sad fact in their constitution is death to America Iran was honestly unchecked. The brief exchange of attacks didn’t change Irans position and they have arguably become more desperate with the collapse of their puppet government in Syria and how Hezbollah and Hamas have been decimated.
What I am happy about is the US did not lead this it was not US jets active firing missiles. They could play a part in the defense but honestly these people that have been confirmed kills where not good people they encouraged and incited terror
HOLY SHIT A SENIOR ISEALI OFFICIAL SAYS THEY BELIEVE MULTIPLE IRANIAN SENIOR MILITARY OFFICIALS AND NUCLEAR SCIENTISTS HAVE BEEN ELIMINATED INCLUDING THE IRANS CHEIF OF GENERAL STAFF
Israel is a huge arms buyer 🤷🏼♂️ plus they also give the US a ton of tech as well it’s a huge win for the US especially cause they aren’t putting US boots on the ground
That’s not how a mafia works but sure if that makes you feel better. It’s interesting to ignore the well paying manufacturing jobs that are created by this. Then you throw in the engineers and the innovation and sure you can ignore the clear and easy facts to get to your narrow view
Coercion, taxation, use of force, shady deals, violence… it all sounds a lot like how a mafia operates to me.
The difference is that the state mafia swallows up the smaller ones.
My view isn’t narrow, it’s objective. I don’t want — and I never authorized — any system to steal the fruits of my labor to fund wars that keep the theft machine running. That’s why I’m on the path to getting out of this madness.
Use of force? Violence? Coercion? From a defense company? I’m not seeing that in DC unless it’s the homeless. Taxation from a defense company? So your argument does right off the bat with the rules you set up 😂
Seriously? You have to be aware. I'm not saying they are worse or better just that they influence politicians. They primary people. I know other groups do the same stuff including China. But China isn't attacking another country right now. Israel is.
They recruit active people in offices no one does that
Super PAC money is one thing and honestly the fact you can identify Israeli influence tells you how they are not hiding it. The Saudi’s who you never hear of is a much more concerning thing because… you don’t hear about them.
Last Congress a Scheduler for a Dem member was identified and arrested for being recruited by the Chinese and trying to turn additional staff to the Chinese. It was a huge issue and an enormous mess on staffers like myself who never met the person.
Israel has massive support from conservative Christians but the Super PAC pressure is massive. I don't care how open they are about it as you say. Most people have no clue even so. Every time I mention to people I know they are surprised.
Like I said, I am not saying they are worse, they just have massive influence and many Americans have no clue. They also don't know about the influences you describe.
They do but honestly the Gulf States war chest is highly likely to be bigger. They can easily outspend the entire Jewish population via the dark money pacs and we have no idea who is doing what