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30 sats \ 21 replies \ @Undisciplined 6h \ parent \ on: Stacker Saloon
I suspect it also got downzapped pretty heavily. Some people have a deranged hatred of micro betting.
I think ~stacker_sports posts are default to be lower in the
top posts. You can see this happening to most of the posts in the territory.
Contrary to SS Posts published in territories like ~Ask_SN end up much above even with less zaps or engagement.
I feel the ranking of posts, at least under the top posts, should be ranked impartially.reply
not really, the weekly random pick em always ends up in the top filter for a day
I feel the ranking of posts, at least under the top posts, should be ranked impartially.
That disrupts the competition right?
So many people are waiting to be featured on the top filter, you would definitely need bias to cut out the posts which lose edge
Yeah, I don't have a full handle on it. I'm confident there's nothing in the code that systematically suppressed ~Stacker_Sports, but something about who zaps (and perhaps who downzaps) is hurting us.
As @k00b often says, our best path forward is just to make a better product, whatever the explanation, so that's our focus.
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I'm confident there's nothing in the code that systematically suppressed ~Stacker_Sports,
I believe it.
However you can see that you (only you) zap the same amount to a post in ~Stacker_sports and zap a post in ~Ask_SN or even in ~econ, you'll see anomalies in the rankings.
Maybe you are right about downzapping. And it may be that someone always readily downzaps posts from SS.
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I've never experimented much with that. It does defy my understanding of the system.
Maybe mutes have something to do with it. I know ~Stacker_Sports is a heavily muted territory.
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I just think that things should be more transparent for everyone's understanding. Things like how a 10 sat zap (by 1 stacker) post be above a post zapped in hundreds (by more than 1 stacker).
If nothing else the trust based (discreet) system applied here on SN creates a lot of confusion.
If it has to do anything with downzaps, they can be available like other details.
If it has something else like 'whatever trust score it generated', it may be provided in the details)
(I don't know if this is easier said than done)
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What business is it of anybody else what you do with your sats? I think they should make downzapping a lot more expensive than it is. Make the hate pay!!
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I saw the idea of stacker sheriffs, not so sure that is a good idea. Centralizing power always seem to go awry, just look at that mess on Wikipedia.
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It wouldn't necessarily come with any extra power. It was more of a nudge to keep the downzap option on people's minds.
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Ahhh………….yes!! The infamous nudge. The one that the state loves to employ on every person in their jurisdiction. People can just as well ignore those that they do not want to reply to or even read. There is also blocking, isn’t there?
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There is muting, but that is purely personal. Downzapping is a community service that is costly to provide. When there is content that you think is actively detrimental to Stacker News, downzapping makes it less visible to others.
Imagine someone was plastering pornography all over the public spaces in your town. Sure, you could just ignore it or stop going to those areas, but if you chose to spend the time taking it down that would help your neighbors. And, if the person who spent the effort taking it down was acknowledged in some way by the community I don't see the harm.
Just because the state adopts a tool doesn't make the tool bad and Stacker News isn't a state.