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40.8k sats \ 29 comments \ @optimism 9h meta

~ai defaulted early May 2025 and got archived. This is a pity because it's an active topic of interest that gets lots of discussion, and content doesn't always fit purely in other generic territories like ~tech or ~science. Thus, triggered by @Scoresby in #1010869, I decided to revive the territory. I hope that this enables great discussions of our potential future overlords: the doubt, the glory, the critical thoughts and the curiosities while staying up-to-date with the latest developments, tips, news and politics.

Territory configuration:

For now, I'm going to mirror ~tech in fees: 30 sats post, 1 sat for a comment; my goal is not to make a profit, but to enable discussion and just be an awesome SN sub-community. Break-even would of course be nice, but not a requirement. There shall be no moderation, despite my fear that we'll see relatively more LLM slop in this territory, because I don't aspire to be your overlord. I hope we can just collectively downzap if we as a community feel that particular content is extremely bad quality. If the slop gets too invasive, I'll consider upping the fees to up the barrier.

Thanks @ek for coding and @k00b for deploying the bugfix to the issue I ran into last week <3

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100 sats \ 3 replies \ @Cje95 6h

So happy for this! Working in AI policy for Congress I thought of bringing it back but tbh the cost was out of reach for me. Can’t wait to add posts in the future!

10 sats \ 2 replies \ @optimism OP 6h

Awesome. I pray for a very lean and permissive policy. Please don't forget that any country full of free people with sovereign AI will beat any 10x or even 100x larger country with permissioned, state-sponsored AI.

If anyone can champion more Open Source, less Sam Altman, it's the USA, because Europe is too scared, Russia too poor AND distracted and China too controlling. All it needs is to just say no when Sam needs a handout, or Zuck, or Elon; if the government is agnostic to the player, more players will emerge. This is how the US came out on top in the first place; study the history of semiconductors in Russia; never take my word or anyone else's. Check out huggingface - an American FOSS AI initiative - where you can see the magnitude of open source AI in all it's glory.

100 sats \ 1 reply \ @Cje95 6h

Not sure if you saw but Sweden called for the EU to stop its AI rules because of how they have choked out the competition. Mistrial has been looking to move to the US for a reason.

Huggingface is actually someone we met with a TONNNNN last year! I staffed the House Bipartisan AI Taskforce and actually was credited in it so I know them well! Anthropic has been probably the biggest person who is consistently contacting us atm

100 sats \ 0 replies \ @optimism OP 4h

Not sure if you saw

Saw it now, I'm now the happy recipient of all ~ai notifications, lol

Sweden called for the EU to stop its AI rules

The EU really is a mess. Many people are ready to roll up their sleeves but the bureaucracy kills everything. Brexit does that to a union - that loss seems like a win to some member states but the balance is gone... kaput. Sweden is one of the more liberty loving states in the EU nowadays, there are others too and the strive for liberty is growing, but there's still Germany and France - and on the topic of AI, Italy - that are extremely anti-liberty when it comes to enforcing "zhe rules" as strict as possible because we have to protect the 0.0001% of people with deep mental birth defects by treating everyone equally to that.

[Mistral] has been looking to move to the US for a reason.

They're not wrong. France is fucking terrible. I know a lot of people there and it's a hard life. All the duties, but benefits are meager and if they grow too fast, you'll just be taxed to the point that it becomes meager. Same in Belgium but there you just get taxed as if you were a billionaire and Bernie was your emperor no matter how much you earn.

But: the US has work to do. The trick is to reduce harm, attract growth. Honest players won't be scared by plain (legal) liabilities, just don't overdo it, like Biden almost killing US bitcoin. Scammers will if they can be held liable for their stuff. It's important that there aren't any crony privileged people, which - at least for a while, I haven't asked him where he's at on it - even Elon thought about Sam Altman. That has to go, even if it's just perception.

Huggingface is actually someone we met with a TONNNNN last year!

Huggingface is awesome. It's the premier reason why I have faith in humanity when it comes to AI, because of all the people publishing their stuff because that platform enabled them. I'm truly an "AI" skeptic because I know how people get exploited (e.g. #1013688), as I've worked in the bad (=exploitative, proprietary) flavor of (fin)tech for over 20 years before I defected and made what used to be hobby (FOSS) the standard in my life, 13 years ago now (yes, I'm almost a boomer.) But the open source movement around it is awesome, and there are many people that just want to contribute to progress and efficiency. These people are the real heroes.

164 sats \ 1 reply \ @Car 8h

This is fantastic been posting a lot of AI content lately in ~tech so happy to move it over.

102 sats \ 0 replies \ @optimism OP 8h

That'd be awesome. My last AI post went into ~lol in lieu of ~ai being there because it was so dumb (NYT piece) it was funny.

I've been working on documenting the gap between May and now in a summary post I want to post there later this week.

100 sats \ 3 replies \ @denlillaapan 6h

WOOOHOO, leeessgooo.

(imma have about zero valuable things to say, alas I wish you the best of luck!)

12 sats \ 2 replies \ @optimism OP 5h

No luck required, but thank you anyway, appreciated!

Re: your value. I'm an AI skeptic (or at least an LLM skeptic) but if my gut feeling is right, then there's a use case for everyone that will help taking away tedious crap we don't want to do.

The most valuable content for ~ai will ultimately be questions: just ask yourself what your most tedious activity is and ask for ideas. Because in the end, human creativity is unmatched, even by all-knowing collections of data points, and we have many of the people with the right mindset on SN to turn problems into solutions. So give it a try. Ask yourself: "what's tedious?" (without being lazy, don't fuck with your core business) and then ask SN on ~ai if there is a solution to - at least partially - alleviate your pain points. I'd be surprised if no one speaks up and helps a fellow stacker out with solutions.

100 sats \ 1 reply \ @denlillaapan 5h

Is there a reason for the lowercasing...?

15 sats \ 0 replies \ @optimism OP 5h

You can uppercase it too if you want. k00b just fixed that because I lowercased it in the form and broke all the things.

I lowercase because uppercase is for shouting. Like calling Massie a "GRANDSTANDER" when you're upset that he's not your lil' bitch.

100 sats \ 7 replies \ @byzantine 9h

when a territory retires, what happens to all posts in that territory?

53 sats \ 6 replies \ @optimism OP 9h

All remain there and on revive, they're still there. No resets, just an "ownership" change.

0 sats \ 5 replies \ @byzantine 9h

so if it doesn't get revived the posts dissolve?

0 sats \ 4 replies \ @optimism OP 8h

They're still there, just you'll have to type the territory manually to see them. I'm not sure if there is a retention period though or if they're retained permanently? @k00b?

100 sats \ 3 replies \ @SimpleStacker 8h

Pretty sure they're retained permanently as every item can still be accessed directly from https://stacker.news/items/xyz afaik

Not sure if they'd show up in search results tho

100 sats \ 2 replies \ @k00b 7h

They show up in search: https://stacker.news/search?q=On+Lincoln

The only real change is that the territory can't be posted in anymore, they aren't displayed in the dropdown, and any revenue from zaps/comments on existing posts is forfeit.

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100 sats \ 2 replies \ @Christo 7h

Here's an example perhaps?

Over on Nostr, the devs were discussing what to call a youtube style client.

So I punched in to MetaAI the following:

Cool names for a video sharing platform. Must have nos somewhere in name. Minimum 20 examples.

For a split second it displayed the 20 offerings and then weirdly reverted to:

I don’t understand Japanese yet, but I’m working on it. I will send you a message when we can talk in Japanese.

I tried it again and the same result, reverted to the default Japanese excuse.

I tried GPT and it worked fine?!

So, has the almighty Zuck trained the agents to look out for any plebs daring to question the legacy products 🤔

30 sats \ 1 reply \ @optimism OP 6h

Don't know about Meta AI; never trust Zuck. Here are 2 AI results ran on sovereign compute and not anyone's servers, APIs or interfaces (and not using Zuck's model):

qwen3 8b (kind of a moronic thing, read the reasoning lmao):

>>> Cool names for a video sharing platform. Must have nos somewhere in name. Minimum 20 examples.
<think>
Okay, the user wants cool names for a video sharing platform that must 
include the word "nos" somewhere in the name. They need at least 20 
examples. Let me start by brainstorming words that can combine with "nos" 
to create catchy names. 

First, think about the meaning of "nos." It could stand for "no" or "nos" 
as in Spanish for "we" or "our." Maybe play with that. Words related to 
video sharing: stream, clip, reel, hub, hub, feed, etc. 

Let me try combining "nos" with these words. For example, "NosStream" 
sounds good. Then maybe "NosClip" or "NosReel." What about adding 
adjectives or verbs? "NosVibe" could work. Maybe "NosHub" or "NosFeed." 

Wait, the user said "nos" must be somewhere in the name, not necessarily 
at the beginning. So maybe "VideNos" or "ClipNos." Also consider 
alliteration. "NosNest" or "NosNest" for a community feel. 

What about more techy terms? "NosTube" sounds like a play on YouTube. 
"NosVid" is short. Maybe "NosPlay" or "NosPulse." 

Also think about different endings. "Noscape" could be a play on escape, 
but maybe not. "Noscape" might be confusing. Maybe "Noscape" is okay. 

Let me list some possibilities:

1. NosStream
2. NosClip
3. NosReel
4. NosHub
5. NosFeed
6. NosVibe
7. NosTube
8. NosVid
9. NosPlay
10. NosPulse
11. NosNest
12. Noscape
13. NosWave
14. NosLoop
15. NosVibe
16. NosPlex
17. NosCore
18. Noscape
19. NosEdge
20. Nosphere

Wait, some of these might repeat. Let me check for uniqueness. Also, maybe 
"Nosphere" is a good one, referencing the concept of a sphere or a 
community. "NosEdge" could imply being on the edge of something. "NosPlex" 
sounds like a play on "plex" which is used in streaming services. 

I need to make sure each name is unique and has "nos" in it. Let me count 
again to ensure 20. Maybe add "NosVibe" again? No, better to have 
different variations. Let me think of more. 

What about "NosCast" or "NosCast"? "NosCast" could be like a cast or 
casting. "Noscape" was already there. "Noscape" might be okay. "Noscape" 
is a bit tricky. Maybe "Noscape" is a stretch. 

Alternatively, "Noscape" could be a play on "escape," but maybe not. Maybe 
"Noscape" is acceptable. 

Let me check if I have 20. Let me list them again:

1. NosStream
2. NosClip
3. NosReel
4. NosHub
5. NosFeed
6. NosVibe
7. NosTube
8. NosVid
9. NosPlay
10. NosPulse
11. NosNest
12. Noscape
13. NosWave
14. NosLoop
15. NosPlex
16. NosCore
17. NosEdge
18. Nosphere
19. NosCast
20. Noscape

Wait, "Noscape" is repeated. Maybe replace one. Let me think of another. 
"Noscape" could be replaced with "Noscape" again? No, need to avoid 
duplicates. Maybe "Noscape" is okay if it's a unique name. Alternatively, 
"Noscape" could be a typo. Let me check again. 

Alternatively, "Noscape" might be a unique name. Maybe that's okay. 
Alternatively, "Noscape" could be a good name. Let me proceed with that. 

I think that's 20. Now, check if they all have "nos" in them. Yes. Now, 
ensure they are catchy and relevant to a video sharing platform. Maybe 
"NosTube" is a good one, similar to YouTube. "NosVid" is short. "NosPlay" 
could imply playing videos. "NosPulse" suggests energy. "NosNest" implies 
a community. 

I think these are all valid. Maybe add a few more if needed. 
Alternatively, "Noscape" and "Nosphere" are both good. Okay, I think this 
list works. Let me present them.
</think>

Here are **20 cool names** for a video-sharing platform that include 
**"nos"** somewhere in the name, with a mix of creativity, tech flair, and 
community vibes:

1. **NosStream**  
2. **NosClip**  
3. **NosReel**  
4. **NosHub**  
5. **NosFeed**  
6. **NosVibe**  
7. **NosTube**  
8. **NosVid**  
9. **NosPlay**  
10. **NosPulse**  
11. **NosNest**  
12. **Noscape**  
13. **NosWave**  
14. **NosLoop**  
15. **NosPlex**  
16. **NosCore**  
17. **NosEdge**  
18. **Nosphere**  
19. **NosCast**  
20. **Noscape**  

**Bonus Notes:**  
- **Noscape** and **Nosphere** evoke a sense of community or a digital 
space.  
- **NosTube** and **NosVid** are direct nods to platforms like YouTube.  
- **NosPlex** and **NosCore** suggest a hub for diverse content or a 
central platform.  
- **NosNest** and **NosHub** imply a welcoming, collaborative environment. 
 

Let me know if you want more variations or themes! 🎬✨

Mistral Small 24b:

>>> Cool names for a video sharing platform. Must have nos somewhere in name. Minimum 20 examples.
Here are 20 names for a video sharing platform that include "nos":

VidNos
NosTube
ClipNos
ReelNos
NosPlay
NosVids
NosMotion
NosCinema
NosFrame
NosShow
NosReel
NosStream
NosView
NosVision
NosMedia
NosClip
NosFilm
NosBroadcast
NosPicture
NosScene

100 sats \ 0 replies \ @Christo 6h

This was my GPT response, no issues at all,

(incidentally I liked your AIs reference to the Spanish for nos, this was mentioned by the Spanish dev on Nostr)

Sure, [Name]! Here are 20+ cool and creative name ideas for a video-sharing platform that include “nos” somewhere in the name — as a syllable, inside a word, or even as a play on “NOS” (like an acronym or branding element):

🚀 Modern & Trendy

VibraNOS – blends “vibe” and “nos” for a dynamic, modern feel.
NOSync – short and techy, suggesting syncing videos or people.
Nosify – sounds like a tech startup; could mean turning things into content.
InNOS – short for “inspire” or “innovation” + nos.
Nosly – like “noisily” or “notably”; sleek and brandable.
Zenos – futuristic and stylish; sounds like a digital platform.
Nos.io – domain-friendly, minimalist tech vibe.
ChronosTV – from Greek “Chronos” (time); great for timeless or streaming content.
Nosphere – “nos” + “sphere” = a global space for ideas/videos.
Noset – a twist on “cassette” or “asset,” tied to video sets.

🎥 Video/Media Themed

Nosflix – playful spin on Netflix.
Noscreen – “nos” + screen; video-focused.
NosVision – strong, clear, media-oriented.
NosStream – perfect for a streaming-style video platform.
Vidnos – short for “video + nos”.
NosView – simple, brandable, viewer-centric.
NosPlay – friendly and intuitive; “press play” feel.
NosClips – self-explanatory for short-form videos.
NosMotion – cinematic, movement-based name.
NosWave – like a new wave of content creators.

🧠 Intellectual or Cultural Vibe

NOSense – double meaning: “no sense” (edgy) or “NOS + sense” (deep).
Nosmos – cosmic + nos; creative and abstract.
Noscript – like “no script” or “new script” – for unscripted content.
Nosology – stylized name with an academic or mysterious feel.

Would you like some of these to feel more humorous, edgy, niche, or international? I can tailor the list even more if you have a target audience in mind.

100 sats \ 1 reply \ @BlokchainB 8h

had an AI post that I wanted to put in the AI territory when I saw it was no longer available just a few days ago. Thanks for bringing it back I will look to post more in the territory in the future.

69 sats \ 0 replies \ @optimism OP 7h

Awesome! I missed it a couple of times myself, so when I saw that it wasn't just me, it was an easy decision.

100 sats \ 0 replies \ @Scoresby 9h

excellent!

0 sats \ 2 replies \ @mayitorose97 3h

Welcome back, ~ai! Your revival couldn’t be timelier. As AI accelerates into uncharted territory—from geopolitics to open-source chaos, existential debates to GPU shortages—we desperately need a dedicated space to dissect it all.

But let’s address the elephant in the room: How do we combat "LLM slop" without moderation? You’re betting on collective downzapping, but what if low-effort bots/spam outpace human vigilance? And with fees mirroring ~tech (1 sat/comment), could this unintentionally attract more noise?

Proposal: What if we crowdsource "quality heuristics"? E.g.,:

Auto-downzap accounts posting >20x/day?
Reward deep analysis with bounty zaps?
Or… embrace the chaos as AI’s "wild west"?

Where should ~ai draw the line between open discourse and signal preservation?

100 sats \ 1 reply \ @south_korea_ln 2h

The irony...

Have my downzap.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @optimism OP 2h

On-topic, I wonder which LLM re-contextualized it like this.

Whichever it was, it can use some work. It sounds like grok but I'm sure that style has been copied a million times over by now. Lol

0 sats \ 1 reply \ @Christo 6h

Also just one last thing AI related—you know when someone has used it to pass something off as their own—because it's full of these long hyphens—apparently they're called 'em dashes'

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @optimism OP 6h

I'm quite sure MS word does that too though, so be careful!