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Would your stance change if the car dealer accepted bitcoin? And what if they were likely to keep the bitcoin to spend it themselves? What if your buying with btc made them consider the option to keep more on their books in future?
It would help because the increased adoption would be a net positive. that's why i mentioned testing out lighting... as i have. using bitcoin even on coffee is great for adoption and pays huge 'adoption dividends.' So 'paying with bitcoin' is like paying less... because it helps help people become educated / makes the network stronger.
Will spending the money on a toy hurt my future self's finances?
Probably. Short term? No way to know. Long term? Probably.
And will I get more joy out of it today than in x years where I can get the same (or better) for less?
Yes. However humans don't have an infinite amount of time (so they spend/consume regardless).
Now, if I were to drive adoption with my purchase, it would carry some degree of utility forward in time even though the object I am buying has little to none.
Agreed
We need more adoption and a stronger circular btc economy today, not in 30 years.
The education isn't there. The 'general public' has heard of bitcoin... but do they know how it works or how to spend it? No. They have no idea.
Even the 'finance' people who write articles or critique Bitcoin and know it exists have no idea how to use it. They never mention lightning or sites like stacker news.
The level of knowledge among stackers is extremely niche
The education isn't there. The 'general public' has heard of bitcoin... but do they know how it works or how to spend it? No. They have no idea.
People didn't know how an economy works before spending fiat money. They did so because others around them did.
My stance is that we can do the same with bitcoin. Getting started is not as hard as we make it out to be.
Even the 'finance' people who write articles or critique Bitcoin and know it exists have no idea how to use it. They never mention lightning or sites like stacker news.
I think the people you are referring to are writing it with a very specific goal in mind: to discredit bitcoin.
As for their reasons to do so, I can only hazard a few guesses. Frequently, taking that stance will buy them social credit in the circles they've invested their career in. They're not writing for everyone, they're writing to be seen by their superiors who can help them get their next promotion.
The level of knowledge among stackers is extremely niche
It feels that way, but I am not so sure. There is more curiosity in the 'general population' out there than I would have thought.
The level of openly showing you're in favor of bitcoin is niche, but more and more people seem to get that there is something going on, and it's not matching the narrative of the anti-bitcoiners.
Part of it, I think, is a lot of bitcoiners are private about it to protect themselves not only from wrench attacks, but also from social ostracization.
But the encouraging bit is how many of my non-bitcoiner friends (the vast majority) are starting to understand that the anti-bitcoin narratives are exactly that: just a narrative spun to make it look bad for the environment, social cohesion, or what have you.
In my opinion, non-stackers were just fed the lies first before they got around to find out more about it from a neutral place. It needs time for the lies to expose themselves. What also helps is having a trusted friend to tell them to take a second look; it isn't what they have been told it is.
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My stance is that we can do the same with bitcoin. Getting started is not as hard as we make it out to be.
I love buying coffee with Lightning... I wish there were more places to do it.
They're not writing for everyone, they're writing to be seen by their superiors who can help them get their next promotion.
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It feels that way, but I am not so sure. There is more curiosity in the 'general population' out there than I would have thought. The level of openly showing you're in favor of bitcoin is niche, but more and more people seem to get that there is something going on, and it's not matching the narrative of the anti-bitcoiners.
Stacker News is still a HUGE bubble.
I have been unable to 'orange pill' anyone. Maybe one person but that's only because he's seen the price go up the last year? I don't think he really appreciates the fundamentals yet.
If Bitcoin were down 50% tomorrow I would keep buying it because I think it has a bright (orange) future. But I don't know anyone else like that.
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