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0 sats \ 10 replies \ @kepford 9h \ on: Who deserves justice that hasn't yet received it? AskSN
Every president that I have spent more than an hour of study on.
abe lincoln?
edit: guess he got justice, whether deserved or not
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Haha do educate me
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You know people are on to something when almost all of the responses are peppered with name calling and ad hominem attacks at the messenger. This is why I hate seeing bitcoiners do this. Its so weak and anyone with critical thinking capabilities is gonna discount what you say.
Anyone that is critical of Lincoln gets these types of attacks. I know because I've been subject to them myself.
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“Lincoln was a typical example of the humanitarian with the guillotine: a familiar modern ‘reform liberal’ type whose heart bleeds for and yearns to ‘uplift’ remote mankind, while he lies to and treats abominably actual people whom he knew.”
~ Murray Rothbard
Tell me what you really think Rothbard! lol
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I don't have time today. If you really want a different perspective on the man find The Real Lincoln by Thomas Dilorenzo. Guy has the receipts and was tarred and feathered for his work. Lincoln has been so lionized that it is American heresy to even quote him in his own words in a negative light. He was in short a tyrant. Slavery was not the real reason he led the nation into a war. He actually deported many slaves to Liberia. That was his preference.
At best he is a complex man and leader. He did some good but did so in very disastrous ways we are still dealing with. Slavery was only ended by war in one nation. The US. The war was fought to keep states from leaving the union (which was and still is their right). Saying any of this is no an endorsement of slavery or the confederacy but most people are so programmed they don't even think about this topic (I was for years). Probably took 15 years for me to be open to even consider what I was taught in school was a fairy tail (victors write the history thing).
I don't care to debate people on this. If you do the research and disagree. Cool. I'm glad slavery was "banned". I just don't buy the official line. The north and the south were evil in many ways. Its complicated. People like black and white. They think in booleans. I don't. Only when it comes to morals. The state is amoral.
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I'm very open to the idea that Lincoln was a bad dude. I just brought him up because he and George Washington are usually cited as the most universally beloved presidents
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I would just add. I think we would be better served with a balanced and honest recounting of the past. Not what we are fed. Make up your own mind. But the presidency of Lincoln is responsible for many of the centralized powers many on the right love to complain about.
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