What often puts me off is the often full reinvent-the-wheel nature of these projects. There are good things out there that can be reused. cjdns could give you privacy at the (overlay) transport layer all by itself for example, and you can already run Bitcoin Core with this. Now you have privacy and MoE. Then what you need is chatter and collaboration, for which you can use whatever you want over the tun.
Everything can be easy. But, these people often need tokens (governance, stablecoin, yield shit) and that's how you know they're not in it for the freedom, but to get rich off you and to be your future overlord.
Yep, I've used CJDNS in the past. It wasn't at a level that was good for discovering things. Has that changed? I know they were working on a kind of app ecosystem similar to Roku?
I got to see the net do that with linkshares. It seems like good discovery always yields to crap given enough time. Probably Google is why. "Don't be evil! Ah, EFF that, we want money! Also power!"
Yes. And you don't need to be the CEO of a big tech company to be like that; company-men and -women will glady join the party-line and pitch you their benevolence while the founders at night have trouble gaslighting themselves that this is what they envisioned. I've worked for and with many companies that were founded on deep ideals (not goog though) and the stories leadership tells themselves to sleep well at night are often cringe.
That said, you will often see an internal push "to do good" in these types of companies and once in a while the great deeds surface. Ideals are expensive, so I get it. But that's an argument against giants and for the little guy.
But, since talk is cheap, I'll go figure out - tomorrow, as it's late for me - what it takes to run a wiki on cjdns and report back. Being the change makes the difference, I think.
I hadn’t heard of Qortal. I sense I’m less optimistic that non-bitcoin blockchains (or any system that isn’t trivial to self-host or bitcoin-level incentivized) will provide consistent data-freedom guarantees, but I enjoy reading about the attempts. It’s just hard to incentivize storing data; beyond which, trust, charity, and subjectivity enter the picture; and small reductions in trust do not compensate for how cumbersome these systems are to use.
Even without my skepticism, I’d probably quit before getting started after reading about this “feature”:
Able to provide feeless hosting for applications, websites, and data.
I think the general procedure is that a circle of people usually in at the founding simply keep funding one another, and the "outside" spread from others you have to have doesn't seem to happen since they are by definition "outside" and do not gain any of the resources at any level that would make the platform relevant to more than just the cadre of founders. At least, that's generally my experience. If content were truly valued, it would make a difference, and that, unfortunately means your signal has to cut through much noise.
cjdnscould give you privacy at the (overlay) transport layer all by itself for example, and you can already run Bitcoin Core with this. Now you have privacy and MoE. Then what you need is chatter and collaboration, for which you can use whatever you want over thetun.