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Mathematicians Ernst Zermelo and Abraham Fraenkel used set theory to give mathematics a foundation at the beginning of the 20th century. Before then subfields such as geometry, analysis, algebra and stochastics were largely in isolation from each other. Fraenkel and Zermelo formulated nine basic rules, known as axioms, on which the entire subject of mathematics is now based.
One such axiom, for example, is the existence of the empty set: mathematicians assume that there is a set that contains nothing; an empty bag. Nobody questions this idea. But another axiom ensures that infinitely large sets also exist, which is where finitists draw a line. They want to build a mathematics that gets by without this axiom, a finite mathematics.
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And yet there are physicists who follow this philosophy, including Nicolas Gisin of the University of Geneva. He hopes that a finite world of numbers could describe our universe better than current modern mathematics. He bases his considerations on the idea that space and time can only contain a limited amount of information. Accordingly, it makes no sense to calculate with infinitely long or infinitely large numbers because there is no room for them in the universe.
This effort has not yet progressed far. Nevertheless, I find it exciting. After all, physics seems to be stuck: the most fundamental questions about our universe, such as how it came into being or how the fundamental forces connect, have yet to be answered. Finding a different mathematical starting point could be worth a try. Moreover, it is fascinating to explore how far you can get in mathematics if you change or omit some basic assumptions. Who knows what surprises lurk in the finite realm of mathematics?
It's always a good reminder that, as absolute mathematical truth may sound, it rests on a set of arbitrary axioms, that, by definition, we can't prove. Take another set if axioms, and a whole new mathematical reality emerges.
This is pop-sci drivel.
These aren't mathematicians who "don't believe in infinity". They're just trying to come up with yet another mathematical model of sets. This time one with one less axiom, the axiom allowing for infinite sets.
Infinity – the mathematical concept – clearly exists and no sane mathematician would ever deny that.
The sane, correct, way to write this article would be to say they're mathematicians trying to figure out how to build a useful mathematical framework without infinity. Title it "Mathematics Without Infinity" or something.
God damn journalists...
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51 sats \ 0 replies \ @OT 11 Aug
I bet there's someone out there trying to brute force pi. Just letting it run until it finds the end.
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I am struggling through this book but the author makes this very case about the limitations of our current reference frames.
When I clicked on the post title I was ready to completely trash this idea but now it makes me think.
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Yes, it does seem that a lot of paradoxes arise out of concepts of infinity.
But the interesting thing is, even if infinity does not "exist physically" (whatever that means), it still exists as a well defined hypothetical construct in our minds.
Some philosophers use this to argue that the world cannot be just material.
I'm not sure what I think about all this, but it's fascinating.
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