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0 sats \ 4 replies \ @Solomonsatoshi 30 Aug \ parent \ on: Has any Indebted Country ever Gave Up their Gold Voluntarily? econ
Try managing without one and see how it goes for you.
You will be screeching desperately for government before long.
Governments and their provision of property rights and law enforcement form the basis of wealth creation.
Without them there has never been a prosperous sustained economy.
Why?
Because without rule of law you have anarchy and it is extremely difficult to do much let alone invest in complex infrastructure and productive capacity required for a prosperous economy.
Couldn’t agree more. The best example of a government provision of property rights would be North Korea. But there are many runner ups. Let the plebs do their homework and realize for themselves how thoughtful and caring governments have been towards their citizens.
On a serious note:
Governments as we know them did not emerge until 16th-18th century. Their emergence was the result of the Church losing power over plebs as it failed to continue to feed people its version of “truth”. Kudos to Gutenberg, who invented the printing press, allowing the masses to efficiently create and spread (alternative) information.
Without them there has never been a prosperous sustained economy.
History shows numerous examples of prosperous communities of different scale:
- Haudenosaunee Confederacy (pre-contact North America)
- Çatalhöyük (~7500–5700 BCE)
- Nuer People (pre-colonial Sudan)
- Medieval Iceland (930–1262)
- Chumash of California
These societies had complexity, trade, and stability without a coercive state.
Instead of a central authority, these communities relied on:
- Kinship & clan systems
- Customary law
- Distributed leadership
- Economic interdependence
- Cultural norms & shared values
Governments are reverse Robinhoods. The sooner everyone realizes this, the sooner we can build a prosperous and just societies again.
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All those systems are governments!
Often less centralised and more distributed than a modern nation state but governments none the less.
They all rely as you yourself acknowledge upon common and agreed rules and means of resolution.
The Theocracy of the Catholic Church in Europe was government...you appear to assert it wasn't- delusional sophistry!
The theocracy in Iran is government.
Islamic State / ISIS are forms of theocratic governments!
Smaller more primitive economies and society can happily operate under more primitive forms of government but you have not and cannot show any example of where there was no government...even if you cannot see that governments can take and do take many different forms to the one of the modern nation state.
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Impressive! And kudos to the state.
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Mostly Jewish shadow bankers have been behind the western governments who have dominated global hegemony over the last 500 years..
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