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7 sats \ 3 replies \ @daolin 7 Sep \ on: Moral Dilemma of Whether or Not to Accept State Welfare when Eligible. ideasfromtheedge

Let's remember that we can't actually say no to these kinds of programs, even on the receiving end. If they want you to have "free" healthcare, education, a stimmy check or whatever, you can't just send it back. They make it a hassle to say no.

Drain whatever you can get out of the public sector, which is what they're demanding you to do, then use it for the benefit of the private sector, yourself included, until the programs spiral out of existence.

0 sats \ 2 replies \ @Solomonsatoshi OP 7 Sep

In the case of the pension here in New Zealand there is no compulsion to apply. If you do not apply you do not receive it and there is no penalty or consequence for not applying for it. If however you do apply you are inherently taking funds from all other citizens either via increased taxation or debasement.

0 sats \ 1 reply \ @daolin 7 Sep

Sure there is. At the very least you get put on the list of people who are eligible but didn't apply. The state always has the option of coming up with a consequence later.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Solomonsatoshi OP 7 Sep

Yes I guess they can in theory do anything in the future if they choose to but currently there are no sanctions or consequences if you do not apply for this welfare...except for not receiving it!