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so basically, stay away from the Hood type situation?
how about school shootings and random acts that seem to keep happening?
There are hundreds of millions of people here. All kinds of crazy shit happens, but that doesn't make it common.
I think there's only one county in America that's ever had more than two mass shootings (it's in the Denver area and has had 3). There are more than 3000 counties in this country and almost all of them have never had a single mass shooting.
In grad school, I was trying to do a research project about mass shootings and there were so few that it was really difficult to do any kind of statistical analysis.
i mean, it is way more common in the US than seemingly anywhere else though (shool shootings, not always mass school shootings).
I don't give it a ton of thought, since you know, i'm not there, but asked chatgpt:
-Using the K-12 School Shooting Database (very broad: gun brandished/fired or bullet hits school property), there were ≈1,468 incidents in the past decade, a ~324% jump vs. the prior decade.
Other trackers use stricter definitions and get much smaller counts (e.g., Everytown’s “gunfire on school grounds,” Education Week’s K-12 list, and the Washington Post’s database). They all agree the trend rose sharply in recent years. -
Then i asked what other countries rank in the school shooting list and it gave me this
*There isn’t a single, reliable global database with apples-to-apples rates. The best-known cross-country snapshot (CNN’s compilation Jan-2009→May-2018; incidents with ≥1 person shot) shows the U.S. far ahead and the next countries a tiny fraction of that:
United States — 288
Mexico — 8
South Africa — 6
Pakistan — 4
Nigeria — 4
could still be an interesting research project i think
Notice that CNN is including "gun brandished", which is not a shooting. These metrics are really tricky when you start parsing them and it doesn't help that many outlets are intentionally misleading in how they report them.
There are a lot of gang related incidents on or near school grounds in the kinds of neighborhoods I said needed to be avoided. Most researchers don't include those as mass shootings, though, and they only count them as school shootings if they happen during school hours with targets in the student population.
If there's one thing that, as a social scientist, I'd like to communicate to the world, it's this:
Sociological data has to be collected and produced by someone, and the entity producing it is often not a neutral scientific observer. It is usually either a government agency or an interested third party. Moreover, different jurisdictions tend to have different data collection procedures, making cross country comparisons difficult
That's not to say you should distrust every report using sociological data, but it does mean that you should always have in the back of your mind how these statistics were collected and produced. It's often harder than you think to collect an accurate picture of what's going on.
The left knows that black males, age 15-40, commit well over 50 percent of the most violent crimes in America, while comprising about 3 percent of the population. They know it and privately navigate accordingly, but few speak of it, and none seem to have answers to it. So the topic remains taboo
@Undisciplined that's a bizarre representation of Argentina. We have poverty and crime but nothing like that (in most areas around the country).
"Trust me", "not exaggerating in the least"... this person is troubled and pouring his heavy bias toward the whole country as if it was some kind of African nation.
Good to know
Without precise frequencies stated for these kinds of events, I suppose there's a lot of room for perceptions to differ, depending on things like risk aversion.
This guy has never left his pretty neighborhood, hence his pink colored glasses. He mocks my expressions but use the same to hold on his point. I use those expressions because I have already proved to you my points with sources so I assume you will know by now that if I say something is because I can prove it. If you still distrust me, here:
- https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Villa_miseria
- https://www.batimes.com.ar/news/argentina/report-reveals-most-unsafe-cities-in-argentina.phtml#:~:text=Rosario%20suffered%20the%20most%20crimes,del%20Plata%20and%20Villa%20Gesell.
Ask this guy to show you a place in the country that do not looks like a Villa Miseria and he will show you pictures of the same neighborhoods within 3 or 4 capitals. Not all places of those capitals because most also look like "misery valleys".
This account is excellent at showing the crude reality of what I'm talking about. This is most of Argentina:
There are definitely some Democrat-run cities that are trending in the Argentinian direction
Could you name some?
There are definitely some Democrat-run cities that are trending in the Argentinian direction (as you described it, I had no idea it was like that), but I've felt perfectly safe almost everywhere I've ever been in America and I've been to every part of the country. Until very recently I mostly lived in low income areas, too.
Even in the most dangerous cities, the crime is usually (historically) isolated to very small areas that are very easy to avoid.