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Matt Walsh makes a great point.
Get rid of her. Today. This is insane. Conservatives have fought for decades for the right to refuse service to anyone. We won that fight. Now Pam Bondi wants to roll it all back for no reason. The employee who didn’t print the flyer was already fired by his employer. This stuff is being handled successfully through free speech and free markets. This is totally gratuitous and pointless. We need the AG focused on bringing down the left wing terror cells, not prosecuting Office Depot for God’s sake.
Bondi: If you want to go and print posters with Charlie's picture for a vigil, you have to let them do that. We can prosecute you for that. We have right now our civil rights unit looking at that.
Your movement can't say on the one hand a baker can refuse service but an Office Depot can't. Its call hypocrisy. Its the same nonsense the right wing does when they curse the hate speech positions of the left but then scream antisemitism when people critize the state of Israel.
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79 sats \ 6 replies \ @grayruby 5h
It's totally ridiculous but not unexpected.
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This whole approach reminds me of why I left that party/movement. Utter nonsense.
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For sure. And this is why we can't have nice things.
Ever since the assassination I've been remembering a conversation with my wife. She was reading a "Moveon.org" email just before the election. It was absurd but it triggered a conversation about the power struggle and escalation. Until we realize that we should stop trying to stick it to the other guy and exercise our power over them this back and forth battle will never end. Well, that's not true. It will end. With complete tyranny. And at that point, we all lose.
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The concerning thing is the "let's exert power over the other guy while we can" perspective used to exist more on the fringes but has really become normalized over the last decade.
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Yep and it's coming in from both sides. It's the primary reason I think we are headed for national divorce... I hope. Because the alternative is civil war.
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74 sats \ 1 reply \ @grayruby 4h
Every time I talk to my wife about this stuff she has to tell me to calm down because I get so frustrated at the fact that people can't see they are being brainwashed over politics and this is exactly what the most evil people who seek power and control want.
It's infuriating, disheartening, frightening and sad all in one and I have no idea how it gets fixed.
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Right there with ya. Honestly, I think talking is the way out and being real. Stop taking sides and reject this team / mob mentality. Try to be a good faith actor with your friends and family. That's what I try to do.
As a Christian I believe that Christ will return and make everything right. But until that day our missions as His followers is to share the good news and live it out. The other thing I try to remind myself is that it has been much darker in the past. Not in my lifetime but we have seen dark days in history.
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Agreed. It's revealing who is simply a Trump toadie vs who is actually principled.
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It's not the same. The left makes explicit calls for violence that they follow through on. That's the only speech they're at risk of losing. And the antisemitism meme was a pretext for deporting non-citizen leftist agitators, not real speech supression.
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The context here is a Office Depot employee refusing to print charlie kirk posters. IIRC, that employee was fired.
IMO, a private business should have the right to refuse service for any reason. I might be sympathetic to an argument that if all businesses are refusing service to someone on the basis of race or political affiliation, then the state might have a compelling reason to step in, but in this case I am sure many other businesses would have been willing to print the posters.
It's the same with the Christian baker who refused to bake a gay wedding cake. The gay couple could have gone to many other bakers to get their cake. The state should not be compelling a baker to make a product he doesn't want to make.
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Exactly.
My real problem with the state compelling people is that if the state is "the people" (its not but people believe that lie) then the state should reflect the will of the people. Not some ideal that the people don't like.
This is where democracy really breaks down for me. It seems to me the free market is more democratic.
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Freedom of association means I can choose who I talk to, who I do business with, and many other things. That's what I'm talking about. You are missing the point here.
Let me explain. Bondi is saying businesses cannot refuse to provide a service to people. She is advocating for the state forcing a business to print something.
What happens with the left gets into power and do the same thing. They already try to do this all the time. You can't complain about it when they do it and cheer when your team does it.
Bondi and Trump for that matter aren't ideological. They aren't principled. There are people in the admin that are but not Bondi.
Freedom of speech goes two ways. I do not have the right to shut you up. But you do not have the right to force me to support you are use my services or tools. That is authoritarianism and YES it is what the left wants and will do. We should be better than them. Not like them.
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Even more ridiculous in the context of Charlie Kirk, who would be aghast at this.
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Well, a large number are opposed to this idea. Many in Europe for example. We are gonna be forced to learn the lessons of the past if we don't keep talking.
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