This is true. I've used Phoenix a lot. But when I needed to accept lightning paymenta on my webstore it was not an option. And Phoenixd was more expensive than I wanted. 

> Phoenix does a nice job with the trade offs of running a lightning node via your phone. 

It's total nonsense and they know it, thats why they pivoted to phoenixd and wasted years on bolt12.

Device-specific channels and liquidity make zero sense, and you can't run a business off a device that goes to sleep in your pocket.

justin_shocknet

Phonex is nice since users can hold their own keys. But users cannot open their own channels. And there is still code running remote. It will take another few years.

tomlaies

lightning

NVK: Lightning does not work for any meaningful value without custodians

Scoresby

Phoenix does a nice job with the trade offs of running a lightning node via your phone. And it's stupid easy. 

Lexe runs your node in a cloud, but with some cool tradeoffs (check out their [security model doc](https://github.com/lexe-app/lexe-public/blob/master/SECURITY.md))