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102 sats \ 0 replies \ @justin_shocknet 8h \ parent \ on: NVK: Lightning does not work for any meaningful value without custodians lightning
Exactly, if they can run a NAT appliance they can run a Lightning node. A great example of why mobile nodes are gaslightning bullshit.
Morons and scammers look at a plug and play router and say we can't have that for Lightning.
That would require actually looking at the friction points, scammers and morons won't do that. But I did.
Lightning is money for the web, but to use it on the web you need a firewall rule in that NAT appliance, a static IP, DNS, SSL certificate... not for the faint of heart.
Lightning.Pub comes in with Nostr to address that friction, now tying that node to the web is as simple as pasting an nprofile.
Start9/Umbrel have done a good job on the appliance side of that, but the juice isn't worth the squeeze for most, since they still have the above friction to actually make use of it... I expect Lightning.Pub will do great things for their sales numbers.
But, I still think appliances can and should be even simpler. Any PoS at a storefront is still a computer, and therefore can connect to Nostr just the same and run a Lightning.Pub... a $2/month VPS can round the edges or for on-demand applications. Heck, even the way @DarthCoin runs Zeus on a tablet gives me an idea for a digital picture frame that's a stealth node.
There's more solutions than I can even begin to explore, the only problem is no one else is actually trying to solve anything, it's all vanity projects and arbitrage.