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Massie on J6 Government Agents - A look back - Video

583 sats \ 12 comments \ @kepford 1 Oct Politics_And_Law

I was looking on x of for one of Massie's videos where he railed on the continuing resolutions and government shutdown shows they do ever so often when I stumbled on this.

I worked for years to reveal that agents and assets of the government participated in, encouraged, and instigated the protests and entry into the Capitol on January 6th. I believe that Garland and Wray may have perjured themselves. Thank you for your attention to this matter.

Side note, he's using Trump's "Thank you for your attention to this matter." which made me chuckle.

There is a massive number of people that still think that J6 was an actual organic attempt to overthrow the government. It is mind-blowing to me how dense people can be. No serious person thought this was possible. And most serious people know it wasn't even an idea in most of the people's minds. These were protesters. I agree they were foolish but the vast majority were not malicious. There have been times in our history when massive demonstrations have happened in DC. Where thousands of soldiers camped out demanding they be paid wages they were promised. The responses from Garland and Wray here are very illuminating as to their role in all this.

The US is supposed to have check and balances in its system. Things like this are prime examples of this not being the case. I'm sure many of us could create massive videos with other examples. From the Fed not answering questions, to the NSA not answering questions. Most people are still asleep. They are clueless. They actually believe in this nonsense.

Gotta tip my hat to Massie for being the fly in the ointment over and over again.

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71 sats \ 1 reply \ @Signal312 1 Oct

I hate to say it, but I think a majority of people have NOT yet clued in to J6 being a US government operation.

I remember seeing billboards, just after J6, paid for by the FBI, offering rewards to anyone who had tips about the "insurrectionists".

But after all the riots and deaths, and the tremendous destruction of property during the George Floyd protests?

Crickets.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @kepford OP 1 Oct

Yeah, I have to agree. Sure seems that way to me. At the least it was government steered.

0 sats \ 8 replies \ @kepford OP 1 Oct

J6 was interesting. The reaction to it mostly. It was wild to see how many people hold the state as a sacred almost religious institution. Many of them Christians. I find it interesting that so many protestants who scoff a Catholics and Orthodox veneration of the Virgin Mary and the Saints are so freely open about their worship of the state.

I give the non-religious more of pass on this but it is clear to me that if you don't have a faith/religion the state very easily fits into that hole in your soul.

36 sats \ 7 replies \ @SimpleStacker 1 Oct

Which public Christians did you see worshipping the state?

0 sats \ 3 replies \ @kepford OP 1 Oct

Worshiping might be a bit strong but unordered faith is more fair.

I say worship more when describing what I see in our culture.

Statues, temples(grand buildings), positions of honor, sacred texts, etc. Back in the earlier 2000s I realized I had unordered faith in controlling the state. I was not trusting in God but instead more in men. Getting the "right" men in positions of power. I was beginning to learn just how deep the rot was in the system and I started to realize that I had far too much hope in the systems of men. I felt a deep conviction for this personally. I can't see inside of people's hearts but the fruit seems to point to a very similar heart condition in many of my brothers and sisters.

I'm not saying Christians should not be involved or care, but it can become out of order. Reno talks about this in "Return of the Strong Gods" with nationalism. There is always the danger present.

0 sats \ 2 replies \ @kepford OP 1 Oct

I should also add, I grew up in churches that had US flags on the stage. Where military service was celebrated from the stage. These things were like water to a fish for me. By that I mean invisible. These types of things now bother me on a deep level. But I want to be clear. It doesn't bother me as a Christian that people care about politics or vote. My concern with all of these things is not that the Church would have to strong of an influence on the state. But that the state would grow in the minds of believers and increase its influence on the Church.

When we look to the state first over the church and Christ we have something off. I think this is wildly common in the church today in the US at least.

62 sats \ 1 reply \ @SimpleStacker 1 Oct

Ah, have you heard of Mark Dever? He's an influential pastor based in Washington DC. He has stories about the fights he had to go through to get his church to take the flag off the stage when he first got there as a new pastor.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @kepford OP 1 Oct

No but its been a very long time since I was a part of church that does this. I have heard many conservative Christian pastors oppose this practice as well.

0 sats \ 2 replies \ @kepford OP 1 Oct

Its been too long but I do recall moderate republican commentators who say they are Christian showing grave concern. I'd also add that those whose actions tell us they think a nation can turn to god by elections have their idea of state above that of God. I think many moderate political Christians haven't come to grips with how much they have in common with Christian Nationalists. These people get incredibly angry that the right doesn't support gun control actions. Oppose higher taxes and more welfare programs. They will use the Scripture as a justification for their own policy prescriptions. Prescriptions that require violence from the state to enforce. The claim the problem with Christian Nationalism is that religion is influencing the state, but are blind to how their religious views are influencing their politics as well. The difference between the two is simply their political views. Both sides want the ring of power.

I know personally people that wept on J6 because of what was happening. I still hear Christians bring it up. Now, I do share their concern that people are so wrapped up in politics that they prostrate themselves before the political figures of the right. But they seem to not see how they hold the state in just as high of a place. They may not hold a specific man in this high place but they hold the institutions in the high place.

The thing is... public Christians that oppose Trump are largely pretty irrelevant in my view. They are siding with a larger movement that is openly opposed to faith. Sure, you can have private faith but don't talk about it or offend anyone with it.

74 sats \ 1 reply \ @SimpleStacker 1 Oct

Weeping over J6? Man, we must be getting our news from very different sources

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @kepford OP 1 Oct

Not news... people I know. And yes, they get their news from the corporate media. That's a root problem

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @jbschirtzinger 21h

It's amazing to me we are still talking about this five years after it happened. Heck, we just got around to Russia, and that was 7-8 years ago. Our scandals are aging in dog years.