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222 sats \ 2 replies \ @justin_shocknet 6h \ on: Self-Custody Found Dead in Miami Condo - bluematt bitcoin
I'm glad to see that Matt has been triggered by much of the Trustodial bullshit going on, notably fake L2's pretending to be Lightning... I've even had to throw him a few likes on Xitter recently.
But, he's also been one of the worst offenders in championing the normalization of mobile nodes, and it's precisely the delusion that mobile lightning are a workable thing that have brought us here. Literally every piece of trustodial bullshit and centralization is a workarounds for mobile node wallets. (See the bolt12 response I was literally just asked for moments ago #1245819)
I have for years pointed out that mobile nodes are unworkable, and that they are an attack on lightning by demonstrating it in the worst possible environment. They offer no utility for people that need to earn Bitcoin... and it is earning Bitcoin that is the gateway drug to self-custody and permissionlessness, and therefore decentralization.
Since mobile nodes are a dead end, and arrogant people like Matt have not-invented-here derangement syndrome, the "solutions" will continue to get more and more retarded with time.
You might say that LSP's aren't a uniquely mobile thing, and that is true, but it's Matt's quote that prefaces that with mobile. Mobile nodes, existing only to sell services, are centralization toward specific LSP's.
Actual nodes designed as proper business tooling generally offer multiple LSP's in a marketplace, but can also offer more robust automation and discovery such that peers needn't be LSP's in the first place.
LSP's are less of a technical problem with mobile nodes, other than the fact that mobile nodes are inefficient and therefore the LSP's become so to, but rather they are the product of an an incentive problem that anyone pushing mobile nodes is guilty of contributing to.
offer no utility for people that need to earn Bitcoin
I came up against this in the early years of selling my posters. For the number of sales I was doing (not many), running a node on a server was not worth the effort. But I wasted a ton of time trying to figure out how to get a mobile lightning wallet to work for async receive.
For lightning to be a gateway drug, users need to be able to download a wallet and start receiving (even if the app isn't open on their phone).
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Indeed, the juice needs to be worth the squeeze, and that directs all of our efforts in Lightning.Pub
- The <1 minute, 1 line setup takes the effort down a bunch of notches
- Using nostr instead of a regular web server to power website-based access takes it down a bunch more notches
- Ability to share easily it disperses the costs of the "server" (old laptop, rpi, cheap vps) and the channel liquidity... and actually it can be a profit center depending who and how many people you share it with
- Offers with webhooks make it relatively simple to hook into sales workflows, for example, a payment to an offer can pipe data out and trigger another application/service that actually fulfills the order
- Bootstrap mode provides the convenience of custodial for those first receives, but with automation to keep it deminimis and decentralized (WoT roadmap)
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