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List of technical people against relaxing the OP_RETURN filter github.com/supertestnet/list_of_technical_people_against_relaxing_the_op_return_filter

498 sats \ 45 comments \ @supratic 9 Oct bitcoin

@supertestnet making this list because he talked to 3 different people recently who plan to remain on Bitcoin Core due to their impression that a "consensus of the devs" favors relaxing the op_return filters, and that only a handful of technical people dispute this consensus. He wants to show that there is no such consensus.

By "technical people" he mean people who write or review code for protocols and apps that are (1) bitcoin itself (2) "on" bitcoin (e.g. wallets) (3) bitcoin adjacent (e.g. Liquid)

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123 sats \ 27 replies \ @optimism 9 Oct

It's... configurable? What other 30.0 feature is controversial that is not configurable? txorphanage?

All this drama because Szabo came back or his acct got hacked?

211 sats \ 20 replies \ @Scoresby 9 Oct

My guess is it's him. He joined the board of Jan3 in January and his tweets have largely followed the line of Excellion.

Also Szabo's recent immigration takes seem to align with his pre 2021 takes.

102 sats \ 17 replies \ @optimism 9 Oct

I'm agnostic to him coming back or his account getting hacked.

#noheroes

100 sats \ 1 reply \ @Scoresby 9 Oct

102 sats \ 0 replies \ @optimism 9 Oct

Exactly!!!

10 sats \ 14 replies \ @sudonaka 9 Oct

Oh right now you are “slaying your heroes” because Nick won’t go along with your change?

Wow the cognitive dissonance is unbelievable

100 sats \ 3 replies \ @Scoresby 9 Oct

good friend, I challenge you to find the instance where I said anyone working on Core was my hero, or where I acted like Core developers deserve any special credence because of who they are.

I do believe they deserve credence because of their past work, just as I think Szabo is worth listening to because of his past work.

10 sats \ 2 replies \ @sudonaka 9 Oct

What previous work exactly?

The inflation bug? Taproot witness exploit?

0 sats \ 1 reply \ @ivermectin 9 Oct outlawed

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0 sats \ 9 replies \ @optimism 9 Oct

My heroes? Nope. My change? Nope. Also I'm not achow.

0 sats \ 8 replies \ @sudonaka 9 Oct

You are supporting v30 so yes it is your change brother

0 sats \ 7 replies \ @optimism 9 Oct

It must suck to so desperately need a tree to bark up on, that you have to resort to this tree. lol

I'm supporting code review. Have you done code review, brother? Have you at the very least read the release notes? What's the non-configurable change and how is it controversial?

0 sats \ 6 replies \ @sudonaka 9 Oct

Make sure you mention all that to the jury for the cp distribution trial, I’m sure they will understand.

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100 sats \ 0 replies \ @DarthCoin 9 Oct

LOL now all make sense

100 sats \ 0 replies \ @DarthCoin 10 Oct

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

https://xcancel.com/alpacasw/status/1976665904290365929

0 sats \ 3 replies \ @sudonaka 9 Oct

None of you "technical" geniuses have explained what exactly is preventing this exact same thing from happening to bitcoin just like it did on BSV with the same code. https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-47130268

102 sats \ 2 replies \ @optimism 9 Oct

Nothing is.

0 sats \ 1 reply \ @sudonaka 9 Oct

And you think that’s just fine, and everyone should upgrade to v30 and there won’t be any problems?

Wow

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @optimism 10 Oct

It's not been there for 16+ years and it's not in knots either.

0 sats \ 1 reply \ @supratic OP 9 Oct

How's Szabo related to all this drama?

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @optimism 9 Oct

Ask him. https://nitter.net/NickSzabo4/status/1975805206031179831#m

111 sats \ 3 replies \ @kepford 9 Oct

This may be a dumb question but I'm gonna ask it.

Consensus of what devs? Are people thinking there is consensus of core devs or just devs that build bitcoin ecosystem tools?

0 sats \ 2 replies \ @optimism 9 Oct

No, it's a very smart question, actually. And I don't know the answer. I'd personally not call this shitshow "consensus", but then, who cares? You can still configure it in any way you like.

10 sats \ 0 replies \ @sudonaka 9 Oct

People care if they care about Bitcoin.

Bitcoin-core being corrupt or compromised is a pretty big deal

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @kepford 9 Oct

Indeed...

111 sats \ 5 replies \ @k00b 9 Oct

Bitcoin Mechanic

I could've swore dude is nontechnical.

0 sats \ 4 replies \ @supratic OP 9 Oct

He is in the mining side.

169 sats \ 2 replies \ @k00b 9 Oct

I know he works for a company that does technical things, but it's disingenuous to call him technical.

10 sats \ 1 reply \ @kepford 9 Oct

I mean... a mechanic is technical right? Right? lol

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @88b0c423eb 9 Oct

lol

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @88b0c423eb 9 Oct

bitcoin or gold?

65 sats \ 2 replies \ @SimpleStacker 9 Oct

I don't really like this kind of appeal to authority. The arguments should stand on their own. Yes, being experienced with the technical side gives you some more weight on technical matters, but Bitcoin is more than just a technical system. There are all sorts of incentives and game theory that matter as well, which is not traditionally the realm of programmers (which is what is typically meant by technical).

10 sats \ 0 replies \ @kepford 9 Oct

Engineers OFTEN have bad ideas. This is why the vast majority of apps/projects fail. Their code might be great but the idea is bad.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @kepford 9 Oct

I don't really like this kind of appeal to authority. The arguments should stand on their own.

Indeed

11 sats \ 0 replies \ @kepford 9 Oct

He wants to show that there is no such consensus

Yeah, when consensus is used as a tool to shut up debate... that's no good.

Also no good is bad arguments that are hyperbolic. I've seen way too much of that in this debate.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @88b0c423eb 9 Oct

It's missing Nick Szabo

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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @sudonaka 9 Oct

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