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0 sats \ 13 replies \ @ek 21 Oct \ parent \ on: Olympus force closed channel with me lightning
Zeus doesn’t run nodes for users, users run their own nodes.
With Zeus, you’re either using an embedded node (node in your phone) or you connect to an external node (that you also have to run yourself).
Yes, their node.
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Senders need to keep their nodes running while paying a hodl invoice, until it is settled, to avoid FCs. For embedded node users, this means leaving the ZEUS app running.
Receivers don't need to worry. Channels will not close on them even if they do not redeem their payments in the 24 hours window. They just lose access to those funds.
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Ah ok, doesn’t sound great that the cost of this setup is externalized to senders who aren’t even necessarily aware of this but thanks for the reply!
I won’t be zapping @BallLightning then anymore
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Mobile wallets should be able to ascertain this by looking at the CLTV expiry. ZEUS displays a warning for mobile users about it.
mobile only ZEUS users who want a Lightning address but don't want to use Zaplocker can set up a Cashu Lightning address
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On Android would it be possible for the node to turn into persistent node automatically until the invoice is settled? That would greatly reduce the problem. And also why does turning persistent mode require a restart?
Also my channel got force closed by Olympus when I had not tried to send anything. I just periodically opened it to receive zaps that suddenly started coming in from another thread. Are there any typical situations this may occur?
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Yes, Olympus.
Well, first I was online soon enough.
Second, if i am offline they won't have a pending channel state change with me, that's why I think they can safely cancel. But even if I am misunderstanding something here, first point stands.
BTW I didn't know this is called zaplocker, but I remember reading how it works on zeus site i think some time ago.
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That node is just the forwarder, is not your node. Here is how zaplocker works https://github.com/supertestnet/zaplocker#how-it-works
I will strongly recommend to put your Zeus in persistent mode (see in options - embedded - advanced), let' s say during the day when you know you could receive some payments. During the night you could shut it down, no problem.
Persistent mode is keeping the lnd service alive in the background and can avoid these issues.
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Yes, not my node.
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TBH, we’re trying to help you but I don’t think you’re trying to understand
Anyway, maybe I’m wrong, I don’t want to spread FUD about Zeus. @evankaloudis should clarify this.
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WTF is this response to a post where I am actually agreeing with you?
I am trying to understand why my channel got force closed even if I can't have my full attention to this problem at the moment.