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ok, im obvs no coder but vibe coding pops up a lot, esp in some youtube ads (as does no coding), and i wonder how possible is this really for someone with , basically no coding knowledge?
Because I sometimes think, man if i could code myself a little Python thing to do this simple task with all my excel sheets, it would be pretty good, but can a non coder use ai to whip something up, or will the result just be shit?
30 sats \ 7 replies \ @grayruby 12h
I am building a fantasy sports app with replit. I have no coding experience at all.
We are in the midst of our first live contest in the app. 2025 MLB Playoff Points challenge.
Lightning login and payments aren't live yet but everything else is working well.
Caveat: I had to spend a bit of money to get this far. Your free credits and even a monthly subscription won't get your very far.
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Ah, I was in the middle of typing when you updated your post. I was gonna ask if lightning payments are fully integrated, because I'd be super impressed with replit if it were.
How has your experience been in terms of debugging / getting the AI agent to re-do previously done work?
Also, quick feedback, the font is a little hard to read.
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Are you viewing on mobile? There are some aesthetic changes I want to make but wanted to get it up and running and make sure contests were working properly.
The majority of time I spend is trying to get the AI to correct things it screws up. It is a tedious process. This is likely where technical experience comes in very handy as an engineer would have a pretty good idea of what is going wrong when something isn't working and can be more precise with the AI agent as opposed to saying "hey I tried to do this and this occurred, that shouldn't happen".
Lightning payments aren't fully integrated yet but @SatSquares has used AI for his football squares and lightning payments are working.
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No, i was viewing on desktop. At 100% zoom level the font felt a bit small, and I had a hard time telling "5" from "6" apart. Obviously, everyone's setup is a bit different so it just may be on me.
I joined and predicted Dodgers in 6 btw, haha.
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51 sats \ 0 replies \ @grayruby 12h
I think you are a bit confused. You aren't supposed to pick the team that will lose.
Haha Go Jays!
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FWIW though, I'm an engineer. I just use AI to hasten the process; physically typing was a huge bottleneck way back when. Now I just tell AI what to do, correct its mistakes real quick and we're off. No more typing huge amounts of code.
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0 sats \ 1 reply \ @grayruby 11h
I know. I was just pointing out that it is feasible to vibe code lightning integration. Didn't say I could do it. Haha
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If y'all are looking to go that route, I'd shoot for "btcpay integration" rather for "lightning integration."
Btcpay is a better documented piece of software than, say, integrating lightning. That makes it easier for AI to code that up.
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61 sats \ 2 replies \ @freetx 15h
Simple things like one-off scripts, yes a non-coder could do.
It would become increasingly difficult to do beyond that though....Essentially at a certain point "Vibe Coding" is just "Project Management" but if you don't understand enough of the underlying tech to instruct it: What languages, frameworks, and architectural approaches to take then its not going to work out well.
pic related.
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This.
The bigger a project too the bigger experience in change management and automated testing become, these are not non-coder friendly.
There's things AI will do that get past even me as an architect and automated tests that might have other consequences, so we have a pipeline of team review as anything complex should.
Having guys that are better in-the-weeds, at minimum as a second and 3rd set of eyes, before committing a change is irreplaceable.
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Yeah this would be my point of view too.
  • Simple, well defined tasks: Vibe coding is totally feasible and quite likely to succeed with minimal coding knowledge.
  • Somewhat more complex programs: Vibe coding can get you a working example up pretty quickly. But if something's off, or you want to change it, it helps to have some coding experience so you know where to look in the code / what to prompt. Without that knowledge, you can easily have the bot go off the rails.
  • Complex programs requiring multiple layers of technology and is meant to serve people other than yourself: unadvisable to go fully in with just vibes. Even if you get a minimal working example up, it's gonna be hell to maintain without you having a good grasp of the code.
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Every coder started out without knowing any code, ser.
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Python ? Lisp! Hy!
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Fresh projects, yes without a doubt. Existing ones, not so much.
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