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76 sats \ 6 replies \ @fiatbad 19h \ on: What I *still* cannot understand is the tone-deafness and absolute fantasy... bitcoin
Absolutely, 100%. Well said.
This is why I constantly sound like a Bitcoin bear around these parts. Bitcoiners are comforted by Bitcoin's apparent inevitability. While they may not be wrong, they are complacent in allowing the fiat system to go on FAR longer than it needs to.
Due to the reasons OP mentions in this thread, Bitcoin will NEVER happen as a "peaceful revolution". It WILL require a certain level of actual revolution.... probably requiring some violence and outright rebellion.
Sure, Bitcoin might still overtake fiat in a couple hundred years. But why are we okay with that awful narrative. Fuck that. Fuck this comment: #1261675
Take control and start standing up for what's right! I feel very alone in this fight, even though I know I'm surrounded by people who want the same thing. They just aren't willing to fight for it.
probably requiring some violence and outright rebellion.
Physical violence I'm NOT advocating for that... it's not what nerds do. But this is a digital and monetary revolution and eventually we have to treat it that way.
If the Cashu mint was adopted enough it would be 'banned' just the same as Samurai, Wasabi (they shut themselves down) Stacker News the "MSB" or Phoenix Wallet + WoS a year ago.
Yes those 2 are back in the US but they are one election away from being 'banned' again and if the democrats had their way they would KYC everything no exceptions all the wallet software could get mandatory-KYC/removed from app stores.
Maybe in 100 years it would 'work itself out' but we will all be gone by then. We have to win hearts and minds and central bankers/the PTB don't have our best interests in mind.
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I don't understand why people don't make the connection. Everyone knows what inflation is, that prices keep going up (which means fiat keeps losing value) everyone knows western governments are hopelessly in debt especially the US. The debt bomb/crisis/Armageddon will happen eventually...
And Bitcoin is right there, waiting.
Hopefully the wallets are finally good enough right now in UI and UX to onboard 'normie' people with an OK on-chain experience, and a GOOD Lightning/Cashu/LSP ready to go out of the box.
Bitcoin gets sold as a 'get rich quick' but it's really a massive revolution.
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that is the homo fiatus...
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I want to know what exactly it is you expect bitcoiners to do? Violence? really?
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I would prefer it not get to violence. However, using history as a guide, I don’t believe it’s possible. I think “The Creature from Jekyll Island” (TCFJI) is only allowing Bitcoin to exist today because Bitcoin is not threatening their system at all. I think they probably orchestrated something in the early days (2015-ish) of Bitcoin to ensure it would remain benign. If and when Bitcoin starts to seriously threaten the fiat system, they will turn this into a real fight.
They won’t attack it directly. They’ll start a global war or something, and use the cover of the war to destroy small Bitcoin communities and node runners.
There are only 3 possible outcomes.
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Bitcoin remains a KYC’d, “investment”. Digital Gold. It NEVER threatens the fiat system.
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People start using Bitcoin for trade and daily transactions so much that the fiat system becomes seriously threatened. TCFJI can’t do anything about it because there are so many node runners and hodlers around the globe. Bitcoin pulls off the trojan horse narrative.
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People start using Bitcoin for trade and daily transactions so much that the fiat system becomes seriously threatened. TCFJI fights back. They have infinite resources, and have been preparing for decades. Bitcoiners are faced with a choice to fight or to lay low and let TCFJI execute their plans, thus continuing to enslave the world.
I think #2 is what Bitcoiners think is going to happen, and I think they’re wrong. Option #1 and #3 are much more likely, in my opinion. Option #2 is naive.
It’s not that I want violence. It’s that I want to see Bitcoiners ready to take it that far if need be. There needs to be a greater distaste for fiat. I’m not saying we should start a rebellion tomorrow. I’d be satisfied if I just saw more of an effort to STOP using fiat, even if it means being seriously inconvenienced or jailed.
I don’t want to see violence, but I’d like to see a sense of urgency which I feel is non-existent in the current culture.
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