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He's losing moderates with the heavy-handedness of his ICE enforcement (which I predicted would happen if he went down that route). He's also losing some with his tariff chaos, but I'm not as convinced how large this effect is. Moreso if the economy isn't doing well he's gonna lose support among everyone.
As for his base, I'm not sure what they're upset about... is it really the Epstein files? I know there are some fractures amongst the base over Israel (recent drama regarding Tucker Carlsen)
149 sats \ 4 replies \ @siggy47 OP 4h
Regarding his base, I would say these:
  1. Israel First policy. Yeah, that really matters
  2. Epstein flip flop. He stoked the issue, then waffled.
  3. Abandoned Isolationism
He preached America first, then got pulled by Israel into Iran. Now, it looks like there isn't an international conflict he's not willing to pursue (as a distraction?)
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I don't think it's as a distraction. I think he wants his legacy to be foreign policy. Plus I think his family has tons of business interests in the middle east, all of which align with Saudi Arabia / Israel, and not with Iran / Palestinians
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111 sats \ 1 reply \ @siggy47 OP 3h
Yeah. That very well may be. Thinking about support among his base, I think Israel is a real problem for a few reasons. Number 1, of course, is that nobody wants to see pieces of dead babies. But, I also think that Trump's support is closely tied to his image as a strong leader. Netanyahu has repeatedly made him look like an ineffectual errand boy.
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36 sats \ 0 replies \ @kepford 2h
Indeed. I really think most of this problem is Netanyahu. It seems to me he has all the incentive to continue killing Palestinians. He is the threat to Zionism. If their movement was smart they would reject his leadership.
When I read the letter supposedly from Kirk he made excellent points. I know many read this as his rejection of Zionism. I read it more as good advice for Zionists.
There is a cognitive dissonance that we are supposed to oppose ethno-nationalism and yet that is what Israel actually is. The Zionist movement has done an excellent job radicalizing people against their movement. They remind me of the progressive movement. They both create what they claim to hate. Honestly, I think it's intentional. Not from the rank and file but from the top of these movements. They seem to want to keep people on edge and divided. Easier to rule.
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36 sats \ 0 replies \ @kepford 2h
Yep, good points.
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30 sats \ 1 reply \ @Cje95 1h
I was amazed he won moderates over given what he ran on. It wasn't a favorable moderate platform and I think if the Dems had run anyone decent then there is a strong likelihood Trump wouldnt have one.
He promised millions being deported and utilizing every tool in the tool box which is exactly what we are seeing. His still is 110% heavy handed but.... he said he would do it. The tariffs and economy as a whole is going to depend on those investments actually coming through. If they do he will look like a genius if they fail to a fool.
Just like Trump ran on illegal immigration he spent a ton of time bashing the Biden Admin on the files. Bondi had even made a comment on the list/files being on her desk and she was going to go through and pass it along to the American people but later went there is no list. The base expected the list.
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I actually think Trump's moderate appeal was very simple:
  • Be able to string together a coherent sentence, which neither Biden nor Kamala were able to do
  • Acknowledge that illegal immigration is a problem and it shouldn't be so easy to get into the country (secure the border vs. deporting millions)
  • Push back against woke radicalism
  • Prioritize domestic affairs over international entanglements
If he just stuck to these things his popularity would be soaring.
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129 sats \ 0 replies \ @kepford 1h
The ICE framing that Trump has made is very short sighted. The optics are bad. He doesn't care. What I see is more people being reactionary moving farther towards open borders.
The reality is what we are seeing is a result of political government's failure to fix a problem. These clowns had many chances to fix the issue but refuse to do so. Reagan tried and others as well. Both parties created this problem. What is happening now is a result of these failures. But Trump is gonna wear all the blame because he really doesn't seem to care.
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