1 sat \ 19 replies \ @monk_cactus 30 Jan 2023 \ on: Can a Statist also be a Bitcoin Maxi?? bitcoin
Who is going to enforce your property claims (real estate, for example), if not a state?
The Philosophy of Ownership - Robert LeFevre
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How does a single sentence question merit a book response?
You can't answer my question in one sentence?
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What exist first? The state or the property?
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How is that relevant? I would say the property, as an abstraction, exists independently of a state
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Then why do you need a state to enforce a property?
Who is this "state"? Is the state part of the contract?
Who is giving the authority to a "state"?
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Because there exists people who will try rob me of that property.
If your answer is protect it yourself, I would say you're not anti-state, you're actually just pro-mafia.
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hahaha so you really think the state will protect you. LOLOLOL
The state will the first one to rob you, not others.
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Exactly. You pay one mafia or another, but in a large enough society this is inevitable.
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Only inevitable for those who refuse to choose Liberty and small, localized voluntary associations, rather than cave to any mafia (no matter how large or small).
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I'm with you on small, localized voluntary associations.
I would say that more than likely, that association will develop rules for arbitrating disputes that essentially constitute "a state". In the event that such voluntary association breaks down, you essentially have mob rule, not unlike the democracy you have such disdain for (and rightly so).
The reality is social organization is challenge, and musing about it philosophically as opposed to practically can easily lead to mental masturbation.