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We are at the point when people start generating total non-sense.
Bitcoiners scorned NFTs and there were tons of arguments against centralized platforms for NFT which actually made Ethereum unusable and they rightfully remembered 2017 when everybody has been dunking on Bitcoin exceptionally high fees.
Now, many consider Ordinals Inscriptions as an attack on Bitcoin or even propose ways to censor it. Letting market decide is not even an option anymore and it happens after a big discussion about "security budgets" which comes a bit too early, may be a decade or two.
Bitcoin always had an options for protocols like Counterparty, Omni or spacechains. It was always possible to run a shitcoin on top of Bitcoin blockchain. However, it is not enough for scammers so this is why they use other ways to trick people.
Maybe NFTs aren't that bad. Let market decide. We already have a good case for tokenization of rental property in USA. It won't work for anybody's flat in Mariupol but it provides useful options for those who live in USA and ready to invest into shares of property objects in various locations.
Maybe putting data on blockchain is not that bad too. Let market decide. We already have malware working on Bitcoin. Pierre Rochard says that it might be interesting to see there CAD files of 3D-printed guns. When Bitcoin blocks may be received from satellite it makes sense.
There may be other ways for data to be used onchain. Imagine all CEXes are outlawed since tomorrow. What we should do for price coordination and Bitcoin-markets to be working everywhere Bitcoin works. I am guessing there are million ways for using Bitcoin I do not know about right now.
The great thing about all this nonsense is that it has underscored how absolutely correct the 'small blockers' were!
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Were anti-OP_RETURN more correct in that regard? Because to me Blocksize war is a bit more nuanced topic when we talk about small vs big blocks.
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I can't wait for someone to buy an expensive ordinal, and then they accidentally spend it in a TX fee because their sats are still fungible, LMAO.
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Na, you miss the point. I don't want 1GB of data every 4 fucking years. Neither will anyone else in 4 years when you need to re-sync your node or anyone thats poor in the future and wants to start their own node. its Been 14 years and we are at 500GB. In 4 years we will add 1 GB if the blocks are constantly big close to 4MB.
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We want the number of nodes to grow. They will start diminishing and getting centralized if the chain is getting 1GB bigger every 4 years. Imagine 4 years from now when someone in Nigeria needs to sync 1.5GB chain on a 200MB connection.. it will take them a month, maybe longer.. They wont be able to wait that long and guess what they will do..
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Eventually every block WILL be 4mb. Full blocks means competition for fees. Higher fees means higher security budget.
About the 1GB every 4 years, I'm not sure that the maths adds up.. I get the point though, as a node runner, it's nice to fit it all on a 1 TB drive, and wait days (not months) to download it all.
From my perspective, trying to decide what should / shouldn't go on chain, by definition, is censorship. The correct way out of this is to price the "cloud storage" wackos out, by focusing on adoption (hence more tx), not in-fighting.
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Its not about what should go on the chain.. whats meant to be on the chain is already on the damn chain. SATs!!!!
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what do you mean the math doesnt add up.. its simple fucking arithmatic.. 6x4=24 24x24=576 576x365= 210,240MB... 210GB
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210 x4 = 840GB basically 1TB
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In the best case scenario, it will be 1GB of data every 4 years. So the question is that do you want to use some network other than Bitcoin?
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Jesus christ you people
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Btw, Why are you projecting in your title? You are the one speaking "non-sense". Maybe you shouldn't speak if you don't know what you are talking about. You know.. Like an idiot would.
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No he's right. Either you guys want a completely uncensored coin/Blockchain or you don't. You can't pick and choose. It's one or the other.
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"censored" lmao.. you are a joke. Life must suck to be as dumb as you are. What exactly are we "censoring"? BTC is money, not your personal cloud service.. You want to send sats for their value at the time, no one is stopping you and never will. You are wanting to put arbitrary data on the chain that has nothing to do with BTC or sats and no one cares about. Fuck off loser. lol "censoring".. putting a limit on OP_return and other OPs is not censoring LMAO...
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We do not talk about cloud service. So you talk about money, do you think that if Bitcoin allows arbitrary data to be onchain, there should be external oracle which would determine if these data have financial purpose or not?
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LMAO, you are lost
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Ah, you can't make a valid argument against my claim so you just name call and insult. You must be a sad little man with low self esteem. ..
And it absolutely is censorship go find a fucking dictionary and look up the meaning of censorship then return to this thread with your tail (if you even have one) tucked between your thighs.
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You are a prime example of "You can't fix stupid"
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How is it censoring? You are the one who can't say.. because anyone can still send a TX with an OP_return limit. the sat is still a sat, and 1 btc will be 1 btc.. Stop projecting loser.
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Spot on. The hypocrisy from the BTC maxis is hilarious tbh. Also it shows that they aren't credible and they only want what they want and don't truly want what they claim to, which is a completely uncensored Blockchain/coin.
Wahhh wahhh these ordinals are making the blocks too big wahhh wahhh ban them wahhh wahhh.
EITHER YOU WANT A FREE, UNCENSORED PLATFORM/COIN/BLOCKCHAIN OR YOU DONT.
YOU CANT PICK AND CHOOSE BECAUSE SOMETHING MAKES THINGS INCONVENIENT.
YOU'RE NO BETTER THAN THE EVANGELICAL RIGHT WINGERS WHO PICK AND CHOOSE FROM THE BIBLE WHICH PARTS TO ATTEMPT TO FORCE INTO LEGISLATION AND FORGET THE PARTS THAT MAKE LIFE INCONVIENT FOR THEM.
EITHER TRULY UNCENSORED. OR NOT.
THERE IS NO MIDDLE GROUND.
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You working for the WEF?? LMAO
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"YOU'RE NO BETTER THAN THE EVANGELICAL RIGHT WINGERS"... This explains a lot.. i bet you have pronouns in your bio also... wouldn't doubt it if you were a pedo as well.
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WOW. You don't fucking call someone a pedophile unless you have fucking evidence they are. Labeling someone that, where I grew up, would get that person killed pretty quickly. You went way too far, and it just shows how immature you truly are. It's sad that you have to slander, insult, and go that low with someone just because they disagree with your opinion on something. You're a sad excuse of a human being. Fucking kill yourself please.
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Whatever Pedo
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Like I said. Off yourself, please.
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Stop projecting your fantasies of what you want for yourself. You just don't have the balls to do it, so you project.
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How do we know you're not the one projecting when you're implying I'm a pedophile?
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Cause i don't wanna kill myself like you do
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Bless your heart
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insulting each other doesnt really help with anything
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Your stupidity is hilarious
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LOL dumb fuck
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