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your reason to not use sats is cause it is more expensive than using cc?
read again
i read it multiple times and try to understand your reasoning
TLDR: there's no real need to attach an external wallet to post on SN. CCs are just sats INSIDE SN.
The horse and pistol is more like an useless virtual signaling.
cc stands for cowboy credits, so it is a credit or would you say that this is the wrong wording? if it is a credit, then it is like a claim to sats and not really sats. isn't that exactly the system we want to avoid with bitcoin? please correct me if i'am wrong
Depends on whether you think microtransactions are a better system than pre-paid credits. The reason I don't have it right now is because there is no good solution without running a server (because the embedded lnd for both Zeus and Blixt eat my phone's battery in about 12h) and I'm reorganizing my servers slowly at the moment.
Are you zapping people, or content? Me, I zap content. It is irrelevant to me as a zapper whether the author of that content decided whether they force themselves to reuse said value on SN alone (CCs) or not.
I don't like CCs, but I like people that are banks yet claim they aren't much less.
i also zap content not people
but i understand the argument, that when you don't like cc and zap people using cc, you're indirectly supporting their decision to use cc
isn't using a custodial lightning wallet better than using credits? on a scale
If that were true then if someone then goes to spend their sats to buy hire an assassin to get rid of their wife, you're indirectly supporting femicide.
isn't using a custodial lightning wallet better than using credits? on a scale
Not in my world. Custodial wallets posing as real solutions for payments are the true evil. If I wanted that then why am I not using SEPA to tip you?
I know most of people here hate me for telling the truth and ignore my advice, but I will still telling you some aspects that stackers should take in consideration using SN with an external wallet:
Not sure if you were running any LN node (private or public), I've run several ones (see my bio and my guides) and I know enough about running them.
- why would you attach a personal node that could be monitored for anything you do on SN? Yes, SN guys seems to be trusted, but you never know when somebody else is using SN data for "other stuff". Many stackers also are opening a direct channel with SN node and use that for zaps. WRONG again, that is just skipping the multiple hops that can hide your real nodeID. Yes, SN is using a LNproxy for all zaps, but not sure how that works with a direct channel to SN node. Maybe will just fail and take another alternative route if available.
- CCs are more private if you look from outside. Yes, if somebody will hijack SN code or have access and want to do evil things, can still look what you zap and how much. But they will not see from where are coming those sats. CCs is a DECOY for me. As I use on nostr a decoy Rizful node. Privacy also means you do NOT reveal more info about you, not just hiding it...
- stackers are not looking into the how much hassle exist in using all the time zaps back and forth. Maybe because they are not zapping too much and just expect tto be zapped a shit tons of sats for crap posts. That will increase the LN node database enormously not talking about paying more fees in routing these zaps. But yeah people do not look into these details when they run a LN node for SN wallet. You also have to take care of liquidity and routes.
I WILL REPEAT THIS: ATTACHING AN EXTERNAL WALLET TO SN IS NOT HELPING AT ALL.
External wallet = a real personal LN node wallet behind it not a bulslhit crap custodial account.
please correct me if i'am wrong
Yes you are wrong.
And is nothing wrong using some credits INSIDE SN.
SN will not make any big difference in "changing the world" with bitcoin.
If you really want to change the world, stop using fiat outside SN. That will make a difference, not by using some meaningless CCs inside CC.
SN is a game. That's all.
Yes you are wrong.
i fail to see what is wrong with my argument
If you really want to change the world, stop using fiat outside SN
i try to do that whenever i can, but why are you making an exception for sn?
i asked before if it is about the price. i think i would understand the argument if you say: using ln on sn costs more than using cc and that is why i use cc. people try to save on costs, which i can understand
SN is a game not a real world. A game that use some credits is just fine.
I spend my sats in REAL world not in online games.
I earn in sats, I spend in sats, I save in sats. That's all. SN is not a real world.
Wrong.
If you want to zap someone with sats you need to attach a LN wallet.
If like Darthcoin you are a lazy hypocrit who rants about living on the bitcoin standard but is actually full of shit and doesn't then you dont.
If you are zapping with CCs then you are not supporting the entire LN infrastructure.
You are also preventing others who have attached wallets from receiving sats.
By not attaching a wallet you are explicitly opting out of the P2P payments between yourself and all other SNs participants.
By refusing to attach a wallet you are remaining subservient to the centralised SN CC credit system and boycotting the LN.
Everytime I post, comment or zap a node gets its fee as does my LN wallet coinos so I am supporting the LN ecosystem - not so for whenever @DarthCoin posts or comments or zaps...he is actively boycotting the LN ecosystem.
If you are zapping with CCs then you are not supporting the entire LN infrastructure.
You are so stupid LOL So for you SN is the entire "LN infrastructure" LOL your idiocy have no limits.
Run a LN node and watch closely what happen with your node for all these back and forth zaps.
Most of people here are attaching WoS crap custodial wallets, not their own nodes.
So the whole story of "making SN self-custodial" is a crap idea if people are still using other types of CCs from WoS... is just throwing the dead cat into another yard.
'Zaps on SN are upvotes for posts. It doesn't matter if you pay with CC or sats from external wallets.'
Wrong. It does matter. If you use sats then if you zap me I get sats, not CCs.
If I send you sats you get CCs not sats.
By not attaching wallets you undermine the P2P liquidity and utility of the LN.
The LN only grows stronger if we use it- and you are boycotting the everyday regular use of sats on SNs.
You are boycotting the use of sats P2P in all of your activity in SNs.
You are thus undermining the growth and development of a circular BTC economy on SNs.
LN can only grow if it is used. SNs is a place where we can send and receive sats everyday- fueling the growth of wallets and the nodes etc that are essential to a growing LN.
I will keep reminding you of this and how it is a great hypocrisy from you when you claim to be living on The Bitcoin Standard.
If they want to pay with CC for their territories, and do not want to use their sats directly, yes they can get more CCs from other stackers. But my offer will always be 1 sat = 1 CC so doesn't help them too much, they can do that directly from their account too.
I am NOT using CCs especially for this and I do not have too many CCs because I use them inside SN to post.
I will repeat this over and over: SN is a "pay to post" not "pay to earn sats". So... by using CCs, I pay less sats to post... This is how you stack sats, not by assmilking like others are trying to do here and accusing me of stupid things.
I am old enough here to know how SN mechanic works.
Most of people attached an external wallet with the stupid idea in their mind that will "earn sats" (aka assmilking). IMHO attaching an external wallet it create too much friction for some meaningless zaps back and forth and will create more pressure on my node.
Instead I could use CCs because in the end I just need some "credits" to post on SN. That's all.
Zaps on SN are upvotes for posts. It doesn't matter if you pay with CC or sats from external wallets. But some stupid people here consider that you must connect an external wallet to "participate in a circular economy". SN is just fine as circular economy by using CCs. Nothing wrong with that. Circular means, it stays inside. So CCs stay inside.
The real bitcoin circular economy happen outside of SN... but these people don't know that. They are not even capable of spending sats outside of SN... meanwhile I live exclusively using bitcoin from 2018.
I spend wisely my sats...