The Demise of Blue Wallet \ stacker news ~bitcoin

21 sats \ 11 comments \ @Slartibartfast 24 Feb 2023 bitcoin

Blue Wallet will no longer be supporting Lightning (from what I understand). Probably the best feature of Blue Wallet was its ability to hold both a Lightning wallet and BTC wallet side by side, allowing you to move BTC onto the Lightning network. The only other wallet that I am aware of that does this is Muun Wallet. For the most part I have had success with Muun Wallet, so this should be the end of the story? But no. The problem I find with it, is that it will make random decisions about transferring your sats on Lightning or BTC and with it some unexpected fees. It was for this reason I preferred Blue Wallet as these decisions had to be made by you rather than the software. Arguably Muun wallet is easier for newbie, with everything taken care of. My purpose for this post was to for people to suggest replacements for Blue Wallet that are 'manual' like Blue Wallet and not automatic like Muun Wallet and importantly allow you to cross BTC over to Lightning. Thanks

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1201 sats \ 4 replies \ @DarthCoin 24 Feb 2023

Bluewallet it doesn't shutdown the LN part in the app. Only their lndhub.io node. That's all. The app continue to be used just fine with Ln part but with other lndhub nodes (your own node, or many other custodial ones).
Muun is NOT a LN wallet. Is just faking it by doing submarine swaps for the users. Also be aware that also the control the xpub in order to be able to do those swaps. That means they will know all your movements. If you know what are you doing, is OK to use, but noobs in general have no idea about these asxpects.

I explained more details about many LN wallets here: https://darthcoin.substack.com/p/lightning-wallets-comparison

1 sat \ 1 reply \ @Slartibartfast OP 24 Feb 2023

Hi Darthcoin, thank you for the information, it looks really useful and is exactly what I was looking for. I have zapped you on your web site

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @DarthCoin 24 Feb 2023

thanks. BTW you can do the same here on SN, if you long press the ⚡️ you can send whatever amount of sats.

0 sats \ 1 reply \ @Zepasta 24 Feb 2023

What's the difference between my Umbrel "Lightning Network Node" and Umbrel "BlueWallet LDHub" ?

10 sats \ 0 replies \ @DarthCoin 24 Feb 2023

Big. And are linked. A LN node is the base. A lndhub is on top of a LN node, like and accounting system, so you can have multiple separate accounts using the same LN node liquidity, without having full rights over the whole node. Here you have a guide https://darthcoin.substack.com/p/umbrel-lndhub-bluewallet

1131 sats \ 2 replies \ @q 24 Feb 2023

You can send and receive onchain transactions with Phoenix but that is taken care of ACINQ, with submarine swaps.

I'm a big fan of ACINQ Phoenix, the only drawback is that the very first transaction to your wallet needs to be at least 10 000 sats and 3000 sats is taken as a fee for opening the channel to your phones node, it is valid fee because ACINQ is holding liquidity and developing both the LN node software and phone app so in some way they need to run their business without red numbers.

In a user experience point of view, as a first time user it is bad because you feel that you just been robbed on 3000 sats, when you don't understand the underling work to make the solution as self-custodial as possible.

0 sats \ 1 reply \ @Slartibartfast OP 25 Feb 2023

Hi, I ended up going for Breez wallet, super smooth and no problems yet. Once I get faster broadband I will get my node running and swap it all over for self-custody and maybe back to Blue wallet. I will see how it goes. Thanks for the recommendation though. Phoenix was on my list and I may yet go there. S

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @q 26 Feb 2023

Breez was the wallet which opened my eyes for lightning network 2 years ago. The podcast 2.0 with streaming sats was giving me a glimpse into the future.

One good thing with Breez is it works with Boltcard.

Still like Phoenix because it is just a wallet not bloated with podcast and point of sale. If you open your lemonade shop you will find your ways to Breez it is a geat wallet.

1 sat \ 0 replies \ @byzantine 24 Feb 2023

bluewallet is still an excellent on chain wallet full of features and sovereign and open source

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @SouthParkHodl 24 Feb 2023

Breez lets you pay to onchain addresses if that’s what you are looking for.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @01xCc 24 Feb 2023

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