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Hot filter's broken, just stick with recent!

100 sats \ 31 replies \ @Scoresby 11h

What's broken about it?

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It's all about downzapping for the wrong reasons!

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What's a wrong reason?

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Someone is targeting Den's posts because he doesn't have an attached sending wallet. A lot of his posts have 1,000+ upzaps but also 800+ downzaps and so they're not showing up in Hot

Not sure if this is happening to other users as well

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My meta post just got downed. also...

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also...

Like the jpeg spammers... they'll eventually run out of money... right?

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Naw. Look ma I got a gun

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202 sats \ 9 replies \ @k00b 10h

I'm thinking of allowing folks to toggle on the horse/gun from their settings - no wallet required. We've also been wanting to only display them on profile pages for clutter reasons.

Also, I'm implementing #1406989 this week which should help in fighting fits of irrationality - past downzaps are on unequal footing with current upzaps.

they might be going after everyone without a horse/gun.

you know what's funny? you can have a horse/gun even if your wallet is down and not working.

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67 sats \ 0 replies \ @optimism 10h

Yeah. I already made that point but people insist on dumb emojis.

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It’s not just Dan’s posts! Even @Undisciplined got hit. Told you! ~lol
Salomon’s mad 😂 more sats for me. Got 1.7k sats today just from downzaps (26,659).

last day top list bottom:

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33 sats \ 2 replies \ @optimism 38m

worse. @btcpp got hit.

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100 sats \ 1 reply \ @0xbitcoiner 33m

even worse. @0xbitcoiner got hit ~lol

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33 sats \ 0 replies \ @optimism 29m

worst outcome haha

I've targeted his posts on the ⚡️ side

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100 sats \ 6 replies \ @Scoresby 9h

That is a lot of downzaps.

If we are going to use money as the moderator, we become vulnerable to whatever people want to spend sats to say (or downzap).

Currently downzaps are pretty powerful. Seems like we may need some balancing in the power of zaps.

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166 sats \ 5 replies \ @k00b 9h

money is the (mother fucking) moderator™️

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This really is a microcosm of the attention economy. This wouldn't matter so much if Hot wasn't basically the prime attention allocator.

Even if I set my visibility filter to -1,000, downzapped posts are still effectively invisible to me due to my inability to maintain perfect attention. I'd have to catch them on Recent about the time they're posted. (My other option is to find a comment worth clicking on when I do Recent -> Comments which then helps me find the post.)

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100 sats \ 0 replies \ @Scoresby 8h
the prime attention allocator

I had been thinking about this mostly as a problem of how zaps and downzaps work, but it is interesting to wonder about solutions that give stackers different ways to decide how to allocate their attention.

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Hot and top are broken, recent is the way to go. That’s what I’ve been doing ever since I joined SN.

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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @k00b 8h

master branch has a -inf filter minimum. I'll deploy it tomorrow

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What doesn’t really make sense is a post getting 1,000 up sats from 10 people, and then one person with 333 down sats being able to cancel it out. That needs to be rethought.

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