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Nick is out here hitting every bat he can swing, [something-something, European-trying-to-make-baseball analogies.]

While media and political narratives often attribute these closures to political or religious discrimination, this study finds that the majority of debanking cases stem from governmental pressure. To identify this cause more accurately, the study distinguishes between four forms of debanking—governmental, operational, political, and religious—evaluating each form in turn. Based on public evidence, governmental debanking appears to be the most significant issue.

kind of a weird, contradictory conclusion but I'll allow it:

Debanking is difficult to address. Between layers of confidentiality and the sensitivity of financial relationships, fully understanding what’s taking place is difficult. That is why Congress should prioritize limiting the government’s role in debanking and promoting the transparency needed to understand the full scope of debanking.

Very nice summary article on Twitter too, today:

These reports rarely catch actual criminals. Yet, each report is like a red mark on your banking record, nonetheless. And getting too many of these reports filed on you can quickly spell trouble. If you rack up multiple reports (often as few as three), banks will close the account. The bank might know you are likely innocent, but the risk of regulators punishing them for inaction is too high. Fines for failing to report real criminal activity can reach into the millions.
It’s much safer for the bank to close the account than risk fines later, especially if it is a smaller account.
Most people have no idea that they were under such scrutiny when they find out their account was closed. In fact, it’s common to get no explanation when the account is closed. It might feel like poor customer service (if not worse), but it’s by law. It is against the law for a bank to tell you if a suspicious activity report was filed against you.

I freakin know about that frustration (#1417296)

"banks stay ultra-cautious because the rules (and regulators) push them to eliminate any perceived risk. These unintended consequences are serious:""banks stay ultra-cautious because the rules (and regulators) push them to eliminate any perceived risk.
These unintended consequences are serious:"

186 sats \ 2 replies \ @Solomonsatoshi 8h -202 sats

What is Stacker News?

It is a social media platform intentionally created to enable a P2P V4V BTC denominated community.

Originally Stacker News (SN) custodyed sats on behalf of participants but the threat of government regulatory prosecution on the pretext of money transmitter forced a move away from the custody of sats by the platform to the platform enabling participants to send sats via their wallets.

To achieve this participants need to attach wallets to both send and receive sats.
Where participants do not or cannot attach LN wallets transactions will often default to Cowboy Credits.

This change was a compromise forced by the threat of government prosecution.
The difficulty of attaching both sending and receiving wallets is moderate- it takes some effort and newbie or non tech people may struggle with it, but most competent Bitcoiners can succeed in attaching wallets and thus enabling sats denominated P2P transactions.

But a number of Stackers have chosen not to attach wallets- in particular sending wallets which enable you to send sats into the SN community.

Very few have attached just a sending wallet- many have attach just a receiving wallet.
Those who only attach a receiving wallet can receive sats from others but cannot send sats into the community. They may feel that as content providers they have no need or obligation to send sats into and within the SN community. I disagree.

Where these receive but not send (horse but no gun) Stackers proclaim to be Bitcoiners but refuse to enable a sending wallet they are demonstrably hypocrits. They claim they want to build and grow the BTC LN MoE network but they cannot be bothered contributing toward that growth by attaching a sending wallet and demonstrating they are not just talking, but are also walking and supporting a sats denominated platform.

If we do not use the LN wherever and whenever we can it will not grow and develop.

Some claim it is too hard to attach wallets- its too hard on their self custody nodes or wallets- this just highlights how much work the LN still needs before it is capable of anything approaching 100% reliable MoE capability.

But the best way to grow and strengthen the LN is it use it – despite its remaining flaws and glitches.
When wallets are supported by people using them they receives transaction fees and can develop liquidity and systems further.
When LN wallets are not used the LN decays- it does not have the usage and fees income to grow.

So when self proclaimed advocates for BTC and LN refuse to attach wallets (especially sending wallets) I see hypocrit.

I will continue to see hypocrit until and unless someone can explain why I should not.

Calling me a Nazi, trolling and making fun of me crudely seeking to avoid the issues I raise will not stop me from asking why are you claiming to be a Bitcoiner but refusing to attach wallets and use the LN here where we can help it grow.
Now some are deliberately concealing their wallet status, as if this is about a right to privacy.

Concealing your wallet status means nobody else can verify whether or not you are serious about using BTC LN, or whether you are just an all talk no walk hypocrit.

Do not trust- verify.

What about this fundamental principle do they not understand?

And then they talk about 'content' being more important than whether or not you have attached wallets - in this context the intentional lack of attached wallets undermines your credibility as your actions do not match your words.
Your submitted content may be great, but you as someone claiming to be a serious Bitcoiner are undermining your credibility and the credibility of your content by being a hypocrit.

Your content, is tainted by your verifiable hypocrisy.

SNs needs both good content providers and those who pay for that content if it is succeed.
I am more in the latter group than the former but both are required overall or the model does not work.

So as a net contributor of sats and thus a net consumer of content I object where content providers refuse to engage in the P2P V4V ethos by refusing to attach both sending and receiving wallets and I will both withhold my contribution of sats and sometimes downvote in response.

V4V needs to work reciprocally or it will not work at all.

The content providers need net sats contributors/content consumers who send sats into the platform, or the entire platform fails.

Content consumers like me are not going to feel inclined to support content providers who can't be bothered attaching LN wallets and showing that they are on board and supporting the LN and sats denominated ethos of SNs.

Your hypocrisy undermines any value your content may have.

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https://twiiit.com/EconWithNick/status/2024133308112617555

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"No, no, it wasn't political...the government just told us to debank you because they don't like your politics."

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I feel like the financial regime in the US at least is just on the edge of being 1984-enough that people get angry. But it isn't quite there. And so the people who do experience the frowny side of the financial system are just out in the cold.