How much KYC is involved for you to host a compute like a 4U. Like if you are incorporated then compliance is going to make you act like any other state controlled entity, that will probably require you to surveil your customers, track their traffic, and provide access to customer data and equipment when agencies ask for it, most of the time warrants aren't even required anymore when threats do the job. If a client was running, say, a Tor exit node and you start getting letters, will you have a legal team to deal with it or is forwarding them on to the customer good enough?
Your identity is a liability. I don’t want it. That’s the point of money, we don’t need that. We built the rest of our system that way as much as possible, can’t surveil what you don’t have.
If you’re breaking the law of our jurisdiction (WY) and the Feds come knocking, there’s only so much we can do - exploitation/abuse requests are real. But there’s also a lot of bullshit and being completely independent of the fiat game helps us cut that down. Tor exit takedown forwards are a certainty, but some scary words from Bermuda don’t mean shit.
We’re not your babysitter, don’t be a dumbass.
This is no different than any other hoster, be vigilant with who has your data.
Is it one well/generator per datacenter, or A+B power from multiple wells/gens?
Thinking about some colo for Lightning nodes, they're particularly difficult to host because they can't miss a write, VPS needs multi-path shared storage / hyperconverged etc.
A/₿ always. Our storage controllers have that where possible & an alternative implementation can be deployed privately if it doesn’t best suit your needs.
Follow up for anyone interested, guy knows what's up.
I've got a test instance spinning and have been running some benchmarks... looking solid.
Early hardening stages of the infrastructure ofc but everything in place sounds comprehensive and sufficiently fault tolerant.
Will run more tests during their maintenance windows to ensure redundancies are working as intended. Dude knows his craft so any remedies necessary will come swift and accurate.
Upstream Data and Steve Barbour deserve respect. They were early in proving that stranded gas and Bitcoin mining belong together.
But Sovereign Hybrid Compute is not the same thing.
Upstream is primarily about oilfield Bitcoin mining infrastructure: turning stranded gas into hash.
SHC is building sovereign edge compute infrastructure: VPS, VPN, bare metal, private cloud, responsive load data centers, and Bitcoin-native compute rails.
The overlap is energy. The difference is the end product.
They turn wasted energy into Bitcoin mining.
We turn wasted energy into sovereign compute infrastructure that Bitcoiners, developers, businesses, node runners, AI agents, and privacy-focused users can actually build on.
Some people in my family are in the energy business. I'm always amazed by how much energy gets flared/wasted.
there's one story in particular, about an energy plant in Alaska, where they had to test it out for a while before the contract was complete and the buyer would sign off, so they hooked the plant up to what was described as "a giant hair dyer" and ran it at capacity for three or four days or something.
Would love to see things like Sovereign Hybrid Compute get connected up to all these different energy sources.
Execution is everything, it's ALWAYS GRADUALLY THEN SUDDENLY and motherfuckers are lazy when it comes to moving money, then they want instant results. 😂💀
Bitcoin is the only unstoppable digital infrastructure on earth because it is the only trustless infrastructure on earth.
Not because every user is perfectly sovereign. Most people still trust somebody for something. Exchanges. Wallets. Hosts. Custodians. Some guy named Dave with a server rack and a cigarette problem.
But the system itself does not ask permission. It does not bend the knee. It keeps moving because the market can route around failure like water through cracked concrete.
That is the lesson.
At SHC, we believe one of the next best places to spend a watt — besides hashing — is on sovereign compute.
Virtual machines. Data storage. Code execution. Digital homes. Digital offices. Infrastructure you can actually use without begging some hyperscaler priesthood for permission.
We spent the time, money, energy, and pain building enough of this stack to operate as sovereignly as possible ourselves. FOSS ethos. Our metal. Our energy. Our rails.
Then we looked around and realized the next move was obvious:
Help others do the same.
Not to become another monopoly. Not to reinvent the wheel. Not to cosplay decentralization while building another cage with prettier paint.
Just another option in a market that desperately needs one.
The point is not “buy an SHC product.”
The point is this:
Own your energy. Own your compute. Own your data. Then do whatever the fuck you want with it.
Self-host everything you can.
And where you can’t, maybe we can help carry that load without turning you into a rented peasant on the cloud cartel plantation.
We offer our services as permissionlessly as possible, with the security, performance, and sovereignty we would demand for ourselves.
A VM can be stopped.
But only if you let the wrong people hold the switch.
Time? Time to prove our skill Time to service our initial customers Time to deploy our products Time to fuck up and fix systems Time to get in front of the people who need us Time to learn the solutions Time to solve the problems
“Can I rent a gpu? You use natural gas for power, starlink for internet?”
One day, they’re fucking expensive to sit on and even harder to deploy so that’s not the initial focus. Any wasted, stranded, or underutilized power can be used for miners or servers, cost & reliability matters more and gas is most abundant. Starlink is for miners, we use fiber for servers. 🙏
How much KYC is involved for you to host a compute like a 4U. Like if you are incorporated then compliance is going to make you act like any other state controlled entity, that will probably require you to surveil your customers, track their traffic, and provide access to customer data and equipment when agencies ask for it, most of the time warrants aren't even required anymore when threats do the job. If a client was running, say, a Tor exit node and you start getting letters, will you have a legal team to deal with it or is forwarding them on to the customer good enough?
Your identity is a liability. I don’t want it. That’s the point of money, we don’t need that. We built the rest of our system that way as much as possible, can’t surveil what you don’t have.
If you’re breaking the law of our jurisdiction (WY) and the Feds come knocking, there’s only so much we can do - exploitation/abuse requests are real. But there’s also a lot of bullshit and being completely independent of the fiat game helps us cut that down. Tor exit takedown forwards are a certainty, but some scary words from Bermuda don’t mean shit.
We’re not your babysitter, don’t be a dumbass.
This is no different than any other hoster, be vigilant with who has your data.
pretty solid answer
Is it one well/generator per datacenter, or A+B power from multiple wells/gens?
Thinking about some colo for Lightning nodes, they're particularly difficult to host because they can't miss a write, VPS needs multi-path shared storage / hyperconverged etc.
A/₿ always. Our storage controllers have that where possible & an alternative implementation can be deployed privately if it doesn’t best suit your needs.
Talking to your CTO now, I think we're going to sling a lot of VPS's ⚡
LFG 🏴☠️💪🧡
Follow up for anyone interested, guy knows what's up.
I've got a test instance spinning and have been running some benchmarks... looking solid.
Early hardening stages of the infrastructure ofc but everything in place sounds comprehensive and sufficiently fault tolerant.
Will run more tests during their maintenance windows to ensure redundancies are working as intended. Dude knows his craft so any remedies necessary will come swift and accurate.
Buh-bye Hetzner
cc @optimism
Who is your favorite customer and why is it OpenAgents?!?!??!
https://twiiit.com/OpenAgents/status/2062629371026841949
Rapid firing q & a from the Permian basin while actively traveling 100mph . Ty for your patience on response times formats etc 🙏😅💀
be careful dude!
😎🤙🏴☠️
Who is the target customer for Sovereign Hybrid Compute?
~openagents is using them for its upcoming Autopilot ✌️
Verified 😎
OpenAgents, in fact we want all of their compute!
Don't tease me with a good time! 😉
https://twiiit.com/OpenAgents/status/2062629371026841949
Extremely, but most want numbers first, so we gotta show ‘em how it’s done.
I've been waiting 18 months for my infrastructure to be started 😅
Sounds like you should of use SHC 😂💀
Post launch SHC ** 😅🙏
I won't BS my guy, I very well could have forgotten. But my god DImi didn't. 🙏😅
Hey @hodltarantula Are you on nostr?
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Do you do the same thing as Steve Barbour's Upstream Data or are you different in some way?
Upstream Data and Steve Barbour deserve respect. They were early in proving that stranded gas and Bitcoin mining belong together.
But Sovereign Hybrid Compute is not the same thing.
Upstream is primarily about oilfield Bitcoin mining infrastructure: turning stranded gas into hash.
SHC is building sovereign edge compute infrastructure: VPS, VPN, bare metal, private cloud, responsive load data centers, and Bitcoin-native compute rails.
The overlap is energy. The difference is the end product.
They turn wasted energy into Bitcoin mining.
We turn wasted energy into sovereign compute infrastructure that Bitcoiners, developers, businesses, node runners, AI agents, and privacy-focused users can actually build on.
Same battlefield.
Different weapon system.
Some people in my family are in the energy business. I'm always amazed by how much energy gets flared/wasted.
there's one story in particular, about an energy plant in Alaska, where they had to test it out for a while before the contract was complete and the buyer would sign off, so they hooked the plant up to what was described as "a giant hair dyer" and ran it at capacity for three or four days or something.
Would love to see things like Sovereign Hybrid Compute get connected up to all these different energy sources.
We have a Load-as-a-service contract in the works to reduce generator maintenance costs.
Can I send you an m30 & dell r720?
Yes on the r720 and not taking individual clients for asic hosting atm. 🙏
What's the most surprising thing you've learned bitcoin mining?
Execution is everything, it's ALWAYS GRADUALLY THEN SUDDENLY and motherfuckers are lazy when it comes to moving money, then they want instant results. 😂💀
are the people who own the energy sources very receptive to the concept of SHC? It seems luck such a win-win situation.
Extremely, but most want numbers first, so we gotta show ‘em how it’s done.
Any examples of the unstoppable infrastructure?
Bitcoin is the only unstoppable digital infrastructure on earth because it is the only trustless infrastructure on earth.
Not because every user is perfectly sovereign. Most people still trust somebody for something. Exchanges. Wallets. Hosts. Custodians. Some guy named Dave with a server rack and a cigarette problem.
But the system itself does not ask permission. It does not bend the knee. It keeps moving because the market can route around failure like water through cracked concrete.
That is the lesson.
At SHC, we believe one of the next best places to spend a watt — besides hashing — is on sovereign compute.
Virtual machines. Data storage. Code execution. Digital homes. Digital offices. Infrastructure you can actually use without begging some hyperscaler priesthood for permission.
We spent the time, money, energy, and pain building enough of this stack to operate as sovereignly as possible ourselves. FOSS ethos. Our metal. Our energy. Our rails.
Then we looked around and realized the next move was obvious:
Help others do the same.
Not to become another monopoly.
Not to reinvent the wheel.
Not to cosplay decentralization while building another cage with prettier paint.
Just another option in a market that desperately needs one.
The point is not “buy an SHC product.”
The point is this:
Own your energy.
Own your compute.
Own your data.
Then do whatever the fuck you want with it.
Self-host everything you can.
And where you can’t, maybe we can help carry that load without turning you into a rented peasant on the cloud cartel plantation.
We offer our services as permissionlessly as possible, with the security, performance, and sovereignty we would demand for ourselves.
A VM can be stopped.
But only if you let the wrong people hold the switch.
Well said. Thank you
Cloud mining got a bad name a while back because a lot of it turned out to be scammy.
What's different about renting hash rate now?
Let me kill this clean:
We are not cloud mining.
Cloud mining got its BS name because most of it was fake hash, fake farms, fake dashboards, and real theft.
We own the physical war machine.
Gas. Power. Generators. Containers. ASICs. Networking. Pool routing. Telemetry. Field crews.
You can fake a website.
You cannot fake miners screaming, generators loading, fuel burning, and hash hitting the pool.
Old cloud mining was “trust me bro.”
We are “come look at the steel.”
Do you think we will see hashrate decline by a big amount over the next year or two (because miners may move to AI compute)?
“Do you think we will see hashrate decline by a big amount over the next year or two (because miners may move to AI compute)?”
Well…pubcos are retarded
agreed. so that seems like a yes.
do you all generally see more people coming to you for bitcoin hash rate or for other compute?
Other compute ATM. It's our main focus.
I imagine there are a lot of sources of stranded energy in north america. Seems like it could be really big.
What is the thing that SHC needs the most to get huge?
eg more access to energy sources, fabrication, manpower?
Time?
Time to prove our skill
Time to service our initial customers
Time to deploy our products
Time to fuck up and fix systems
Time to get in front of the people who need us
Time to learn the solutions
Time to solve the problems
And money. That’s why we bitcoin.
are you guys looking for investors?
Deploying services for individuals, including assisting in monetization, not selling equity.
How do you all find the stranded energy sources you develop?
I used to go find it myself but now I got guys going to find it for me and bring it to the table. 💪
Try not to do too much landfill gas if I the H2S is not being mitigated by them.
Can I rent a gpu? You use natural gas for power, starlink for internet?
“Can I rent a gpu? You use natural gas for power, starlink for internet?”
One day, they’re fucking expensive to sit on and even harder to deploy so that’s not the initial focus. Any wasted, stranded, or underutilized power can be used for miners or servers, cost & reliability matters more and gas is most abundant. Starlink is for miners, we use fiber for servers. 🙏
Are you using submersed containers in the ocean as data centers?
Do you have any projects that are using landfill gas?
Not currently, but am open if the terms on H2S are favorable